Technical HELP!! Massive clouds of white smoke (mostly) on Regen.

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Technical HELP!! Massive clouds of white smoke (mostly) on Regen.

A new mechanic has looked at my Ducato, and he suspects that the cause of the heavy smoke is an aftermarket DPF. Do you know if your DPF is original or aftermarket?

Is there any news about your Ducato?
Mine had the original DPF in it but it was knackered, overheated fried. At the moment I’m trying to get to the bottom of the cause of all the soot, but no joy on that yet.

The DPF specialist I went to did say that aftermarket DPFs are no good, so I’m hoping that solving the soot issue and fitting a Stellantis one will solve the problem.

Iain
 
I have this exact same problem! Although I notice the tone of the engine change slightly beforehand, and the power doesn't seem to be the same. I have always thought it was a sticky injector causing it to leak fuel into the engine, as the MPG drops like a stone. Knocking it out of gear normally shows instant MPG of 99.9, but when this happens it's more like 35. Often if I play with the accelerator it sorts itself out, again suggesting a sticky injector. I find stopping the engine for a bit and then going again seems to fix it.

Yesterday I received MES, and plugged that in today. Realised the previous regen was at the exact time I last had white smoke. Now I find this page too..... The plot (and smoke) thickens..... Haven't had a proper look at all the sensors though, so will have to check those over the weekend. Took it to a garage previously and they said "Well there's no error codes, so can't be any problems" 🤦 Glad I'm not the only one imagining this!

It's a 2014 Fiat Ducato 2.3. Had the DPF cleaned last year as it kept going into limp mode. I blame that on the M1 roadworks. I do a nice long drive every Friday morning, but couldn't get over 50 for years 😂
 
I have this exact same problem! Although I notice the tone of the engine change slightly beforehand, and the power doesn't seem to be the same. I have always thought it was a sticky injector causing it to leak fuel into the engine, as the MPG drops like a stone. Knocking it out of gear normally shows instant MPG of 99.9, but when this happens it's more like 35. Often if I play with the accelerator it sorts itself out, again suggesting a sticky injector. I find stopping the engine for a bit and then going again seems to fix it.

Yesterday I received MES, and plugged that in today. Realised the previous regen was at the exact time I last had white smoke. Now I find this page too..... The plot (and smoke) thickens..... Haven't had a proper look at all the sensors though, so will have to check those over the weekend. Took it to a garage previously and they said "Well there's no error codes, so can't be any problems" 🤦 Glad I'm not the only one imagining this!

It's a 2014 Fiat Ducato 2.3. Had the DPF cleaned last year as it kept going into limp mode. I blame that on the M1 roadworks. I do a nice long drive every Friday morning, but couldn't get over 50 for years 😂
Welcome to the club!! Let us know if you get anywhere with it!!

Latest update.. my van presently doesn’t have a DPF fitted (temporary) until we get to the bottom of the excessive soot issue.

A leaking injector is definitely possible. Mine is overfuelling (apparently) and the theory is that’s what killed the DPF. Spot build up leading to overheating of the DPF on regen and destroying the lining.

Iain
 
My Panda is in for investigation next week, coincidentally. Mechanic suspects injectors, I'm past speculation. I'll also update when we have something definitive.
 
Hi All,
I turn to you in desperation :)

I have a 2016 Ducato 2.3 which has, since I got it, had an issue where "every so often" (200 miles or so) to will belch out white clouds from the exhaust. The only fault it shows is the DPF input temperature sensor shorted to ground, doesn't do this every time but sometimes it pops up coinciding with the clouds. Sometimes it pops up without clouds. Sometimes (there's more) it also shows the ASC Unavailable / Hill Holder unavailable faults too.

I go MultiECU scan and that shows that the white clouds mostly coincide with a DPF Regen, so I'm guessing it's unburnt diesel released as part of the region process? MECUS shows the temperature of the exhaust ramping up as you'd expect, so is it dumping too much fuel in before the DPF is hot enough? On the way up the motorway last week she regenned three times in succession.

I've swapped the "temperature sensor at input to DPF" but that error still occurs from time to time. It's been into the garage a couple of times and they did find that the differential pressure sensor had a blocked hose that's now been sorted but no change (apart from maybe making things slightly worse cloud-wise).

Apart from the odd "cough" as the regen / clouds start the van drives great, if it wasn't for the fact you can see / smell the clouds you'd never know there was anything happening.

Googled this to death but can't find an answer. She's not losing any coolant and the oil level is fine. Mostly motorway miles so not loads of starting and stopping. Don't want to just fire the parts cannon at it until I can at least get a handle on what's going on!!

Help!!

Thanks

Iain
Hi Dizzy. I have a 2013 ducato doing this smoking just after every startup. The dpf has been mapped out and drilled and the egr mapped out and blanked. Does it everytime from cold and lasts about 5 mins. It's so bad that it can't be driven in a town until this stops. We can't find any solution at all. Currently trying to find a genius that can map out the regens if that is at all possible.
 
Hi Dizzy. I have a 2013 ducato doing this smoking just after every startup. The dpf has been mapped out and drilled and the egr mapped out and blanked. Does it everytime from cold and lasts about 5 mins. It's so bad that it can't be driven in a town until this stops. We can't find any solution at all. Currently trying to find a genius that can map out the regens if that is at all possible.
That sounds like a different thing. It should only try to regen when everything is up to temperature, in my case after at least half an hour of driving.

When my DPF was removed they also mapped out the regen process which at least confirmed that was the cause of the smoke.

Mine still spits out black smoke if you boot it, that’s the next thing to fix.
 
That sounds like a different thing. It should only try to regen when everything is up to temperature, in my case after at least half an hour of driving.

When my DPF was removed they also mapped out the regen process which at least confirmed that was the cause of the smoke.

Mine still spits out black smoke if you boot it, that’s the next thing to fix.
Thanks Dizzy. This one does it after about 2 minutes and clears when warm maybe 5 mins after. It's very white smoke just like a regen when diesel is injected on the exhaust stroke and hits the hot manifold.
 
I have now had the injectors checked and they are ok. So the troubleshooting continues. We are starting to suspect more and more the non-original DPF which is approx. 1 year old...
 
I have now had the injectors checked and they are ok. So the troubleshooting continues. We are starting to suspect more and more the non-original DPF which is approx. 1 year old...
Ooh, that’s good to know. The injectors were my next port of call
 
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