Tuning focus induction v gsr induction the result

[maddogmorg]

considering the price difference, there's not that much in it. i know which one i'd go with if i had a punto, only if i was going all out tuning would the GSR tempt me.

 

[dave]

I disagree, the sports exhaust has the potential to increase the BHP over standard, so the engine sucks more juice, puts out more power needs more air. There's no evidence here that the GSR would be any better than the Focus kit in a stock 1.2 8v.

There's no evidence that the focus kit does anything at all though on any car yet

 

[Hellcat]

There's no evidence that the focus kit does anything at all though on any car yet

Only one way to find out.

1 std car.
1 RR.
3 intakes.

Let the best kit win.

 

[Anfield]

ive got a few other mods to do aswell, so i thought GSR was a good start.

O and dave forgot the standard box so we didnt test it.

 

[dave]

ive got a few other mods to do aswell, so i thought GSR was a good start.

O and dave forgot the standard box so we didnt test it.

we didnt have a standard car either as you have that exhaust. we need standard car or the ifs n buts will still keep coming

 

[Captain Mike]

I got standard car with focus and standard airbox somewhere:idea:

 

[dave]

I got standard car with focus and standard airbox somewhere:idea:

where?

 

[Captain Mike]

where?

i have focus kit fitted on my otherwise standard car (minus alloys)

got standard airbox in my room somewhere

 

[ChrisUK]

But bear in mind the price difference, ye fair enough you want more power and torque, but for around 4 times the money, there isnt much difference.

UNTIL you want to do the following:

Real performance exhaust,
Fast Road / Race Cams
Re-Map and other Head work.

None of these will make any difference unless the air intake is taken care off which the GSR does perfectly and considerably better than ALL the competition due to the fact it is CUSTOM to the car / engine! Look at the torque increase low in the rev range! That will make a massive difference to drivability.

To get this sort of kit is normally unheard off without spending in excess of £1000 with a motorsport engineering firm so I wish people would STFU about how expensive it is because quite simply its a bloody bargain. If you don't want one don't buy one simple, no need to remind people constantly that your too cheap to buy one.

 

[Puntodriver1991]

UNTIL you want to do the following:

Real performance exhaust,
Fast Road / Race Cams
Re-Map and other Head work.

None of these will make any difference unless the air intake is taken care off which the GSR does perfectly and considerably better than ALL the competition due to the fact it is CUSTOM to the car / engine! Look at the torque increase low in the rev range! That will make a massive difference to drivability.

To get this sort of kit is normally unheard off without spending in excess of £1000 with a motorsport engineering firm so I wish people would STFU about how expensive it is because quite simply its a bloody bargain. If you don't want one don't buy one simple, no need to remind people constantly that your too cheap to buy one.

Ye fair enough if your going to go down spending loadsss on tuning, but then again its a 1.2 8v. Your not gunna get that amazing results from the engine whatever you do to it.

 

[ChrisUK]

Ye fair enough if your going to go down spending loadsss on tuning, but then again its a 1.2 8v. Your not gunna get that amazing results from the engine whatever you do to it.

Again your wrong. Can be tuned in excess of 150bhp if you want too. Would make a interestingly swift car expecially due to the light weight

But yes for the average person its better to upgrade to a bigger engine rather than put £1000's into tuning.

 

[Puntodriver1991]

Again your wrong. Can be tuned in excess of 150bhp if you want too. Would make a interestingly swift car expecially due to the light weight

But yes for the average person its better to upgrade to a bigger engine rather than put £1000's into tuning.

Well obviously you could get it pretty quick, if your prepared to spend as much as it takes, which would be hell of alot compared to how much it would probs be worth.

I was stereotyping for the average driver, rather than a tuning enthusiast.

 

[dave]

i have focus kit fitted on my otherwise standard car (minus alloys)

got standard airbox in my room somewhere

where back box gone?

 

[Captain Mike]

where back box gone?

Shed.

it has long gone

 

[chaos]

Can be tuned in excess of 150bhp if you want too.

A GSR would be of little use there. It wouldn't fit on the turbo.

If anyone does do the standard, GSR and Focus back to back testing can the wheel power and torque be included? It's the only way to have as conclusive proof as possible, as the flywheel figures are calculated rather than measured.

 

[dave]

A GSR would be of little use there. It wouldn't fit on the turbo.

If anyone does do the standard, GSR and Focus back to back testing can the wheel power and torque be included? It's the only way to have as conclusive proof as possible, as the flywheel figures are calculated rather than measured.

you can have that if you want, but we are only talking puntos here not big muscle cars

 

[maddogmorg]

Again your wrong. Can be tuned in excess of 150bhp if you want too. Would make a interestingly swift car expecially due to the light weight

But yes for the average person its better to upgrade to a bigger engine rather than put £1000's into tuning.

but for the money you'd have to spend sorting it all out you could get a decent handling quick car. Punto's might be light but they're not that highly rated in the handling department compared to similar cars. :devil:

 

[chaos]

you can have that if you want, but we are only talking puntos here not big muscle cars

You've missed my point Dave - it doesn't matter what car you're looking at.

You can't introduce variables when you're trying to test the effect of changing something to see if (and how much) it improves things. As you're making assumptions when calculating the flywheel figures you do run the risk of those figures not being as accurate as they could be. Looking at the wheel figures would be a more reliable way of looking at any power/torque changes.

You would also be better off doing multiple runs for each change, so you know that the figures you're seeing are accurate.

All of the above would cut down on the reasons for ifs and buts.

 

[Anfield]

one of the dudes at red dot said that testing at the flywheel was more accurate.

 

[chaos]

one of the dudes at red dot said that testing at the flywheel was more accurate.

A direct measurement from the flywheel (therefore the crank) would be more accurate, is that what they meant? The only drawback is you have to remove the engine + box to fit it to the dyno.