Technical Drive by wire to mechanical throttle

[Lolabunnn]

Hi all, I've got some issues with my drive by wire panda 4x4 from '06. It's hesitant to come down to idle (revs come down in steps rather than smoothly) it's slow to respond, there's a definitive delay between my foot and the throttle plate and it gives a really disconnected feel when I'm driving that I've never had on mechanical throttle cars (earlier 169 gen panda's included).
Is there a way to convert to manual throttle with a cable like on other 1.2 fire engines? Do I just need throttle body, pedal and cable or do I need different engine ecu, body control module and start mucking about with immobiliser gubbins? Ideally I'd like this to be as simple as pulling the right wires out and swapping the mechanical parts in, weekends work kinda sketch? Or is there a fix to make my E-throttle behave like a mechanical link?

 

[koalar]

not easy

The engine and ECU is unique for the 4X4

Some of the wiring harness is unique to the 4x4

The engine is different and has a different camshaft for low down torque

Most 1.2 dynamics are flyby wire throttle bodies

The throttle bodies are not the same though

Your throttle body is unique and only used on the dualogic and 4X4


It would be easier to fix what you have

hesitant to come down to idle is not right

A good start would be to use a scan tool and read the two tracks on the throttle pedal

 

[Johnspanda]

Hi all, I've got some issues with my drive by wire panda 4x4 from '06. It's hesitant to come down to idle (revs come down in steps rather than smoothly) it's slow to respond, there's a definitive delay between my foot and the throttle plate and it gives a really disconnected feel when I'm driving that I've never had on mechanical throttle cars (earlier 169 gen panda's included).
Is there a way to convert to manual throttle with a cable like on other 1.2 fire engines? Do I just need throttle body, pedal and cable or do I need different engine ecu, body control module and start mucking about with immobiliser gubbins? Ideally I'd like this to be as simple as pulling the right wires out and swapping the mechanical parts in, weekends work kinda sketch? Or is there a fix to make my E-throttle behave like a mechanical link?

Mine is a 1.2 4x4 169 2006 if I rev from idol I would say it's very sharp on the rev counter and responds to inputs well when driving. I have noticed a few times the revs sit high and if I press the pedal and release they come down to normal but it only does this in the 1st few mins after starting, so I think it may also be to do with the engine temp as it's not warm. I'm going to change the thermostat as it takes age's to warm up. I did clean the throttle to make sure it's not sticking.

 

[koalar]

Mine is a 1.2 4x4 169 2006 if I rev from idol I would say it's very sharp on the rev counter and responds to inputs well when driving. I have noticed a few times the revs sit high and if I press the pedal and release they come down to normal but it only does this in the 1st few mins after starting, so I think it may also be to do with the engine temp as it's not warm. I'm going to change the thermostat as it takes age's to warm up. I did clean the throttle to make sure it's not sticking.

Should start at 1200 rpm
Should drop down to 750 rpm fairly quickly

Later cars drop pretty instantly

My 2005 use to take about hundred yards in winter, by the T junction at the end of the road it was at 750, I can take a little longer if left idling

If you have a scantool check both the

Throttle pedal
And
Throttle Positions

Plus make sure the ambient sensor is read the correct temperature, should read the same as what Google thinks the temperature for your town says

Take the MAP sensor out and look at the tip, make sure it's not coved in oil

Thermostat should be changed any how if faulty,