Styling Day Running Lights
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Styling Day Running Lights
Theyre 'legal.
A freind of mine as had some on his car for over '2 years no issues with them.
getting them to stick on good is the main issue,
use pannel wipes or abit of meths on a rag to clean the area before putting them on, 'if theyre the '3m' stick on type.
they shouid look ok mate,
test fit them 1st and see if you like them,
A freind of mine as had some on his car for over '2 years no issues with them.
getting them to stick on good is the main issue,
use pannel wipes or abit of meths on a rag to clean the area before putting them on, 'if theyre the '3m' stick on type.
they shouid look ok mate,
test fit them 1st and see if you like them,
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Beginning to wonder if this guy is even old enough to own a car, usual stupid childish comments
They're not DRLs, they're merly styling lights. To be DRLs the need to serve the same purpose that DRLs are designed to meet, and the 'E' Marked with the correct DRL BS standard markings, and wired accordingly also.
IMO those styling lights will look silly, but each to their own
They're not DRLs, they're merly styling lights. To be DRLs the need to serve the same purpose that DRLs are designed to meet, and the 'E' Marked with the correct DRL BS standard markings, and wired accordingly also.
IMO those styling lights will look silly, but each to their own
You can for about £6-7 buy a DRL relay to add DRL functionality to most sets of lights, however you're right they do seem to just be a stick on LED strip so not properly marked for UK lighting regs
And as a result won't be properly visible like DRLs.
I see the comparison as like using candles for headlights rather than halogen bulbs
And as a result won't be properly visible like DRLs.
I see the comparison as like using candles for headlights rather than halogen bulbs
To be honest DRLs are pretty pointless anyway so are in essence mostly for show, if you want to be seen in daylight turn the head lights on far more effective?
DRLs are not pointless IMO, and do serve a purpose if proper DRLs, but I agree, easier to just use dipped headlights all the time than fit a strip of styling lights. That's what we do in the Classic Panda's, just leave dipped beam on all the time which goes on and off with the ignition
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i've seen so many of those ""strips"" on car
and i look at them and think they look crap
Why? they tend to break down in 3's so you get some working, some dont
They AREN'T good at giving a light source
Take mine for example, in a pitch black lane, they can be see for quiet some distance, and do put some light on the floor, but i wouldn't still drive down said lane with just them....
Do it properly, buy some quality DRL's with a switch from Ring automative, as i seriously dont recommend the lights i've got as the switch is rubbish and they are failing slowly (some led's are failed)
Mine were E-marked and should work properly (dim) if i wired the last bit up :devil:
Ziggy
and i look at them and think they look crap
Why? they tend to break down in 3's so you get some working, some dont
They AREN'T good at giving a light source
Take mine for example, in a pitch black lane, they can be see for quiet some distance, and do put some light on the floor, but i wouldn't still drive down said lane with just them....
Do it properly, buy some quality DRL's with a switch from Ring automative, as i seriously dont recommend the lights i've got as the switch is rubbish and they are failing slowly (some led's are failed)
Mine were E-marked and should work properly (dim) if i wired the last bit up :devil:
Ziggy
I have those LED's in my car right under the front grill in one long strip, they are wired into the side lights. I just spliced them into one of the side light bulbs and it didnt affect the Canbus system or trigger any warnings on the dash and imo I like them but each too their own but what i found is mounting them was hard. I had to attach them too a strip of aluminum them rivet that strip too the metal cross brace just behind the grill. I can upload photos if you need them ?
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i was just ****ing around
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So after looking at different pictures of these lights fitted I have decided against them. Anyway I've started to not trust Chinese things now. Alot of rubbish around on ebay
Hi,
I've come to this a little late, but have just become a Fiat owner again and I was investigating retrofitting day running lights. Being a bit of a pedant, I checked the regulations (google UN ECE Regulation 87: Daytime running lights and UN ECE Regulation 48: Installation of lighting and light-signalling devices).
I was surprised to see that DRLs must go OFF, not just dim, when the sidelights or headlights come on. Now on some cars the DRLs do dim. It turns out that these are combined DRL/sidelight units. There are no separate sidelights on these cars and the lights must meet the requirements for and be approved as both DRL and sidelights. As you are only allowed two sidelights (1 left & 1 right) on the front of the car, any retrofit DRL must go out with the sidelight or headlights on. Any exterior light that you use on the road must be approved and E marked (yes there are exceptions for old vehicles etc).
DRLs must be white, face forward, be fitted in pairs, between 0.25m and 1.5m from the ground, no less than 0.6m apart (inner edge to inner edge) or 0.4m if car is less than 1.3m wide. If mounted closer than 40mm to an indicator, DRLs must go off (or dim) when the indicator is active. They should only come on with the ignition on. And of course they must be E marked.
Robert.
I've come to this a little late, but have just become a Fiat owner again and I was investigating retrofitting day running lights. Being a bit of a pedant, I checked the regulations (google UN ECE Regulation 87: Daytime running lights and UN ECE Regulation 48: Installation of lighting and light-signalling devices).
I was surprised to see that DRLs must go OFF, not just dim, when the sidelights or headlights come on. Now on some cars the DRLs do dim. It turns out that these are combined DRL/sidelight units. There are no separate sidelights on these cars and the lights must meet the requirements for and be approved as both DRL and sidelights. As you are only allowed two sidelights (1 left & 1 right) on the front of the car, any retrofit DRL must go out with the sidelight or headlights on. Any exterior light that you use on the road must be approved and E marked (yes there are exceptions for old vehicles etc).
DRLs must be white, face forward, be fitted in pairs, between 0.25m and 1.5m from the ground, no less than 0.6m apart (inner edge to inner edge) or 0.4m if car is less than 1.3m wide. If mounted closer than 40mm to an indicator, DRLs must go off (or dim) when the indicator is active. They should only come on with the ignition on. And of course they must be E marked.
Robert.
Interesting, the DRL is directly blow the indicators on my Prius and it doesn't dim (always thought it'd be a good idea if it does like some Audi's etc).
Hi,
I looked at the latest revision of the regulations. It's possible that the indicator distance requirement was not in place when the Prius was type approved. They don't have to comply with revisions if the design does not change. It's not easy to follow all these regulations and just because someone has done it for years and not been stopped does not mean you will be OK too. Most UK police offices don't know enough to issue a ticket, but there is always the chance of a multi-agency stop with a VOSA inspector. Anything that looks non-original or obviously not E marked is likely to get you a ticket.
Robert.
I looked at the latest revision of the regulations. It's possible that the indicator distance requirement was not in place when the Prius was type approved. They don't have to comply with revisions if the design does not change. It's not easy to follow all these regulations and just because someone has done it for years and not been stopped does not mean you will be OK too. Most UK police offices don't know enough to issue a ticket, but there is always the chance of a multi-agency stop with a VOSA inspector. Anything that looks non-original or obviously not E marked is likely to get you a ticket.
Robert.
Thats probably it then as the gen3 was type approved back in 2008/2009, although its only the 2012> 'facelift' that had DRLs fitted to it.
This is where things overlap with UK lighting regulations which permit as many side lights as are required to satisfy (schedule 9 part 1 paragraph 2(a)) with no maximum upper limit, this is how big trucks get away with having dozens of pairs of white lights attached to the truck grill.
When these UK and eu laws start to overlap that's when huge grey areas appear. What would set DRLS aside from standard side lights is there function indepemdent of the tail side and number plate lights.
Hi Andy,
I've not gone through the UK road vehicle regulations as you have to start with the 1998 version and then go throught all the amendments. In theory they should harmonise with the EU ones eventually. If you only comply with the UK regs you may have issues if you ever drive on the continent.
The is also a semantic issue, I used the UK common term "sidelights" for the low power white front mounted lights. Technically these are "front position lights" and schedule 2 of the UK regs apply (schedule 9 is "side marker lights").
The '98 regs (unammended) do not directly proscribe multiple sidelights, but part II paragraph 20 requires that optional light must meet the requirements. This means they must still be approval marked and be in the correct locations. Also note that the regulations for lorries are differnt to cars. Just because some trucks are covered with lights does not mean they are legal. The blue or green lights often seen on the front of trucks are illegal and there seems to have been a bit of a crackdown recently (under UK regs blue lights are illegal (unless on an emergency vehicle) even if they don't work. Even something that resembles a blue light comes underthis rule).
Robert.
