Technical Cannot remove rear discs on Panda 4x4 TA (312)

[Herts Hillhopper]

I think the concern is that the bearing races separate which opens another jar of worms - but probably only a small one

And since the rear bearing on the 4x4 is the same part as the front bearing from other Pandas, easy and inexpensive to replace if it needs to be (there was an earlier thread that confirms this is the case - also S4P shows front bearing used as rear as well, only in 4x4s https://www.shop4parts.co.uk/?name=store&op=Results&category=19&secondary=38&opts=1185 ). The Fiat Workshop said the bearing comes away complete…

 

[Steveetee55]

I have been reading all of these various threads through the forum concerning 4x4 rear disc brakes and have come to the conclusion that if I ever tackle this I will go the Fiat workshop route and remove the hubs.

I can't understand why everone is frightened of doing this and would rather spend a minimum of 4-5 hours getting frustrated when the job can be done in 1 hour if you remove the hub. All you need is two new stake nuts. Even Elearn says to do it this way...

I was going to remove the hubs but they wouldn't budge so rather than force the issue I went with the alternative, once the I had done the 1st disc the 2nd I did a bit quicker, if fiat had designed the subframe and carrier a bit more logically, would make the discs a hole lot easier, you shouldn't have to remove the hubs to change a disc that's just plain daft done more than one set of rear discs on suzukis vdubs etc and not one of them is a pia like the panda 4x4 discs are just glad mine are done and I shouldn't need repeat it for 30k with any luck

 

[The Panda Nut]

I’ve mentioned this before, but The Fiat Workshop in Royston, north Herts, changed mine for me. The time charged on the bill was just over an hour. Having read the various ‘horror stories’ on here, I asked them how they do it so quickly. The mechanic told me they just undo the central hub nut and pull the whole lot off. Apparently the bearing doesn’t fall apart as they do this. Their website (here: https://www.fiatworkshop.co.uk/fiat_Panda_fixed_price_servicing.shtml) quotes a fixed price £197.60+vat to replace rear discs and pads on the 4x4 Panda (that’s labour and parts)… a bargain if you’re anywhere nearby! (Given mine were changed for the first time at 40,000 miles, it’ll be a while before they need doing again, now my annual mileage is much less)

Thanks for this. I shall probably use them when mine want doing. Its at 26K so they should do a while more I hope. I drove a mile today with the handbrake on hard to clear the rust. They now look good again. My brake pedal is getting a little long so may be some pads are needed or another fluid change.