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Is it possible to fit the white dial with colour screen clocks to any stilo. always liked the look of them
If fitted to a JTD, the engine oil pressure light doesn't work, and you don't get the engine oil level indicator. You also don't get the glow plug timer light because the Abarth cluster doesn't have one.
I've not given up on this yet.
Discovered from eLEARN that the Abarth cluster is capable of displaying the diesel oil level gauge and the glow plug symbol, and from an old owner's handbook that it displays a low oil pressure symbol.
The JTD engine has an oil pressure switch wired to the engine management ECU which sends an on/off signal to the body computer, then to the cluster via the CAN to switch the warning light on or off. Whereas the Abarth engine has oil pressure and temperature sensors that each send variable voltage signals direct to the cluster. I've tried connecting a switch to the relevant pin on the Abarth cluster but that still doesn't work so it's still "work in progress".
In the diagrams below, eLEARN refers to the Abarth cluster as the High Instrument Panel, and the handbook refers to it as the Reconfigurable Multifunction Display as opposed to the standard Multifunction Display.
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Yeah I'm keen to hear how you get on with this as well Dave.I've tried connecting a switch to the relevant pin on the Abarth cluster but that still doesn't work so it's still "work in progress".
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The relevant section of the wiring diagram is below.
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I suspect that by changing the JTD wiring loom for the Abarth one, you're missing the 2 wires (CB and AL) that go from pins 15 and 16 of connector H on the dashboard fuse box to pins 18 and 17 of connector B on the instrument panel.
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I'd be very interested in the outcome of your "work in progress" Davren
Yeah I'm keen to hear how you get on with this as well Dave.
Still not managed to get the oil level display and glow plug light working on my JTD with the Abarth cluster. I read on another thread somewhere that the Fiat Examiner does the Proxy Alignment procedure more thoroughly than Multiecuscan so booked it into the local Fiat dealer. Despite me telling them what I was trying to achieve, and them giving me a price of £45, when I got there, they refused to even try it.
Although it would be good to get them working, I'm not too concerned about the oil level indicator or the glow plug light. The oil level indicator was never very acurate, so I always checked the dipstick anyway. The glow plug light isn't essential because the car always starts immediately when the engine is warm, and when it's cold, I just switch the ignition on for a few seconds before going to the MAR position with the key.
I reckon the oil pressure light is the most important one, so have found a way to get that working.
I used the redundant "120" km/h warning light that's only used for Saudi Arabian markets (was the Stilo ever sold in Saudi Arabia?) and wired it direct to the JTD oil pressure switch. The wire at the oil pressure switch is difficult to get to so I spliced a wire to the Blue/Black wire from pin 98 of the engine management ECU. I fed the wire through the large bulkhead grommet near the clutch master cylinder to a spare pin on the Abarth cluster. I also soldered a wire from that spare pin to the LED behind the "120" symbol on the cluster PCB.
Whilst the cluster was dismantled, I also scratched the 120 off the back of the dial to make it just a large red light that's more visible.
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I shall give that a go thanks Davren
And i may with your permission pop down to see you in Ldn if you could help me with the wiring in of the Oil pressure switch. I'd prob mess that bit up
Could fund you a drink or two if that ok Davren
You can, but it's not a quick thing to do. Took me about 5 hours to do mine, second one would probably be about 3 - 4 hours.
Dashboard fuse box and body computer have to come out the get to the bulkhead grommet. Engine management ECU, it's bracket, the expansion bottle, and possibly the engine mounting have to come out to get access to the engine wiring loom. Also, the cluster has to come out and be dismantled to solder the extra wire in.
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I used the redundant "120" km/h warning light that's only used for Saudi Arabian markets (was the Stilo ever sold in Saudi Arabia?) and wired it direct to the JTD oil pressure switch. The wire at the oil pressure switch is difficult to get to so I spliced a wire to the Blue/Black wire from pin 98 of the engine management ECU. I fed the wire through the large bulkhead grommet near the clutch master cylinder to a spare pin on the Abarth cluster. I also soldered a wire from that spare pin to the LED behind the "120" symbol on the cluster PCB.
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I have a 1.6 petrol Stilo and i recently purchased abarth clocks for it. The problem is that i get "Loose Conection" and "Parking sensors failure" errors, but when i fit back my instrument cluster i have no error what so ever. I connected with FES and no erros on any ECU detected. Where is the problem and how can i fix it?
cluster?