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Technical seicento 1368 16v 6 speed from Salonica (Greece)

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Technical seicento 1368 16v 6 speed from Salonica (Greece)

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Hi Guys,from Salonica-Grecce!
here this is my seicento 1368 16v project...
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THE INFOS
my centos is 2000 sporting (mk1)
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-my engine is from grande punto (95 hp)
cod. 843Α1000
with only 13K on it!

-the ecu still from a punto sporting mk1 1242 16v (86 hp) but reprogramming (ecu chip)
my throttle body is from a bravo 1.6 16v
46mm original size...is exelant for this engine - 1368 16v
(from 1242 16v is 40mm)
-the crankshaft sprocket is from a punto 1242 16v but cut in the middle!!
-the fuel pump is from a punto gt
-the intake is from a punto 1242 16v
the alternator is from a punto 1242 16v
-the ignition coil is from a punto 1242 16v
-the exhaust is 55mm (my sei is an ex-turbo car)
-my grear box have 6 gears and its from punto mk2b
-the manifold is from supersprint cod.81.44.01
-the water temp sender fitted to the thermostat

THANX 2 : ASLANIDIS SERVICE TUNING (SALONICA)


some photos from my project!

















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track day (Serres)






my sei VS citroen saxo vts



Konstantinos aka "elaborus"
Salonica GREECE

PS: sorry for my english!
 
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nice mate.

the pulley that drives the alternator, has that been modified or is it stock from the 1242 16v punto engine? i thought the belt running there would hit the engine mount, or have you modified the engine mounts?
 
Hy!!! First i wanna say that your car is simply awsome!!! Excuse my bad english...i am from Romania and i am addictet to the seicento I have strongly modified the interior and a lil bit of exterior and engine/exhaust but i wanna put a 1.4 16v engine in it...but i have the further problems: 1st: i don't know where to do the swat because the romanian mecanichs aren't that specialized...in fiat ... 2) if i get all the parts like you did...and mixed them...will i have problems with the electric instalation??? what ECU should i use??? And does the 1.4 16v fit's in the originals 1.1 bracket's? if not...i think here in RO i will faile the MOT...and that sux...

So please!!! If you can help me with advices or something...i would be thankfull 10 life's cause nobody from here can help me and i really reallly want more power in my sei ...If you have an Ymessenger ID or and MSN id..something compatible with Yahoo messenger please add my id: [email protected] or give me yours and we will further speak there. Excuse again my bad english!!! Awsame car again...plz help
 
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hi,my seicento have now the engine starjet from grande punto 1.4 16v (95 hp)
and with supersprint now have 105-110 hp
the engine 1.4 (1368) 16v is similar with 1242 16v
for your project now...
SWAP ENGINE
you have maybe a problem for this modification because your seicento is a mk2 model (multipoint) and not mk1 (single point)
so the eletronics is diffrent...
my seicento sporting is mk1...
the ecu and the inlet is from the engine fiat punto mk1 (86 hp)
not complete the engine!
yes,its also the new model from punto mk2 (80 hp) but is better find from the first model
(i know its older...)
you have do also the reprogramming...this ecu is with data 1242 16v...
for 1368 16v is non corect!
now the throttle body...
is from a bravo 1.6 16v but a possible also from fiat punto mk1...(both not with electric gas)
so you need from this model...(1242 16v)
ecu
throttle body (smaller than from bravo 1.6 16v)
inlet
the brackets is still the original from seicento

sorry for my bad english!

konstantinos
salonica
greece

ps in greece the meccanics is expert for this kind of modifications...a travel in greece maybe with your seicento ??? ;) is an idea!!!! :)

i have created a place at facebook (for all the seicentisti in europe)
SEICENTO LOVERS CLUB
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=58116605599
join this group!!!!!
 
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elaborazioni rossogialle said:
hi,my seicento have now the engine starjet from grande punto 1.4 16v (95 hp)
and with supersprint now have 105-110 hp
the engine 1.4 (1368) 16v is similar with 1242 16v
for your project now...
SWAP ENGINE
you have maybe a problem for this modification because your seicento is a mk2 model (multipoint) and not mk1 (single point)
so the eletronics is diffrent...
my seicento sporting is mk1...
the ecu and the inlet is from the engine fiat punto mk1 (86 hp)
not complete the engine!
yes,its also the new model from punto mk2 (80 hp) but is better find from the first model
(i know its older...)
you have do also the reprogramming...this ecu is with data 1242 16v...
for 1368 16v is non corect!
now the throttle body...
is from a bravo 1.6 16v but a possible also from fiat punto mk1...(both not with electric gas)
so you need from this model...(1242 16v)
ecu
throttle body (smaller than from bravo 1.6 16v)
inlet
the brackets is still the original from seicento

sorry for my bad english!

konstantinos
salonica
greece

ps in greece the meccanics is expert for this kind of modifications...a travel in greece maybe with your seicento ??? is an idea!!!!

i have created a place at facebook (for all the seicentisti in europe)
SEICENTO LOVERS CLUB
join this group!!!!!
Click to expand...

Man, thank you very much for responding me! Great answers...but what i don't understand...what problems should i have because my sei is MPI and not SPI...big problem? with the viring diagram...and others...or it can be solved...?

I just love this car with 1.4 16v...it must be a thriller to drive...i barely wate to swap mine with an 1.4... SO...IT IS POSIBILE, RIGHT?

And...about Greece...ies, it's not far away...i could bring it over there for the swap but first i need all the parts...and how to cary the parts there??...i do no....how much did it cost??

I reallly reallly want an 1.4...it's my dream if i can say it like that...i do no...first to have all the pieces i will start collecting and after that i will see what is to do...

Thank you again very very much!!! Good luck with your car and hope to meet face to face one day. Best regards from Romania...you can check my car on 4tuning (i know it' romanian...but the picture evolution is pretty kweel )

B bye
 
hi there,what's you name? my name is Konstantinos...
for the swap if you want,check your personal messages,you have a pm...
with the name & telefone number for my meccanic...
i think he can help you (here from greece) to find inlet,throttle,ecu for 1242 16v and of corse one engine 1368 16v...
he is specialist for the cars fiat,so also for the swap!
speak in english of course!

and an other think now...
i have a page on facebook...
its a "fiat seicento lovers" place...its not a club...only a place...

here the link...

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=58116605599

i wait you like member,post all the photos for your seicento (and videos)...;)
there is no limits for these...so...more photos!!!

at the gallery is possible find over 200 photos for my sei
(years 2003-2009)
with engines like 1242 8v turbo,1242 16v and now 1368 16v!

cheers!

Konstantinos

Thessaloniki (Salonica) Greece
 
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ROmorpheus said:
Man, thank you very much for responding me! Great answers...but what i don't understand...what problems should i have because my sei is MPI and not SPI...big problem? with the viring diagram...and others...or it can be solved...?
Click to expand...

Have a good read through the other threads - from memory one major thing is the fuel pressure on an Mpi Sei (3BAR?) is far higher than Spi & you need a pump that can handle the supply needed for the modern setup.
 
My name is Bogdan :) and i am happy to meet you all. I am the founder of "SEICENTO roMANIA"..the seicento ovners club here...we are 10 addicted :) members right now...all around the country. I visited yesterday the page on facebook and today i will join (right about now :) ) and post pic's and what i have :)

Konstantinos i am sry for making offtopic on your topic. do you have a messenger id??? for MSN or Yahoo? Add m_orpheu_smaster (and all who are passioned for seicento) to talk more easly. Post soon about the acount on facebook ;)

Sry 4 bad english


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It's done boyz...i'm officialy on facebook and i made a thread here vith the car so i can stop offtopic on other threads :) Here is the link https://www.fiatforum.com/cinquecento-seicento/183317-seicento-revolution-ro.html and we will continue speacking about my 1.4 future project there. Cheers
 
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I have added you to my list :)...we will speak...english like you can...cause i do no italian and greek :) Have you checked my car? :D what do you think?
 
dear Bogdan,
the important is know how does cost the modification from 1108 to 1368 16v in your opinion...
i want to know YOUR LIMIT in euro money ...IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THINK!)
but this is NOT a modification CHEAP...

you need...

-one engine 1368 16v (or only a block) from a grande punto,lancia y,or others
-inlet,throttle body,ecu from punto 1242 16v
-wiring harness from 1242 16v
-reprogramming ecu
-manifold (hand made or supersprint
-alternator from 1242 16v
-fuel pump (mine is from punto gt
-ignition coils from 1242 16v
-spark plug wires from 1242 16v
-crankshaft pulley from 1242 16v

PS Saturday i'll go at my meccanic...for the modification cost in greece (in euro money),i will sent you a pm...
cheers!!!!

konstantinos
so check your mail box
 
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elaborazioni rossogialle said:
dear Bogdan,
the important is know how does cost the modification from 1108 to 1368 16v in your opinion...
i want to know your limit in euro money ...IS THE IMPORTANT THINK!)
but this is not a modification cheap...

you need...

-one engine 1368 16v (or only a block) from a grande punto,lancia y,or others
-inlet,throttle body,ecu from punto 1242 16v
-caves (electronics) from 1242 16v (sorry but i dont know the name in english)
-reprogramming ecu
-manifold (hand made or supersprint)
Click to expand...

can the 1242 16v be live mapped? or nbeed to write a chip for it ?

Thanks
Ming
 
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