Technical Throttle body parts

[T14086]

HI......strange being here (first time I believe?) anyhoo....

looking for help with a part number, searched through eper without success and through the previous posts.

on the throttle body is a 'solenoid' on the left side (as you look at it) with a 6 wire multiplug on it and held in by 2 x torx 20 screws which i believe lets air into the engine when butterfly flap is closed thus acting like a stepper motor.

can anyone identify/part number this or have a picture?

https://www.fiatforum.com/barchetta/184977-cleaning-throttle-body.html post #13 shows a picture and its to the right of the main throttle body. I assume in simply moves up & down to regulate air flow, is it possible to physically move the plunger and if so how much?

 

[T14086]

here it is (arrowed) got this pic from a German webpage...apparently they were used between the seperate idle actuator and the fly by wire throttle setups.

 

[dave]

i got no idea pop along to your local dealer an ask if you can speak to one of their DET's they should know

 

[afroking]

My Barchetta used to have one of those.. it was a cable throttle 2000 reg'

 

[T14086]

i got no idea pop along to your local dealer an ask if you can speak to one of their DET's they should know

I did & he was really helpful, made me a coffee (and doughnut) and we talked for ages on Fiats, swopped phone numbers and later went to the pictures but unfortunally the parts department couldn't identify the part & said it comes complete with throttle body for £600+

My Barchetta used to have one of those.. it was a cable throttle 2000 reg'

yep thats right.

 

[dave]

ring nick at chadwell heath, if there a part number he can normally find it when others cant, some times he dont even need a reg let alone a vin number

 

[afroking]

I did & he was really helpful, made me a coffee (and doughnut) and we talked for ages on Fiats, swopped phone numbers and later went to the pictures but unfortunally the parts department couldn't identify the part & said it comes complete with throttle body for £600+

Do not try and move the plunger by hand as you will break it.

The idle valve comes complete with throttle body, last time I checked £350 plus giving them your old one back.

There is no way around this, I took a great deal of time finding this out.

Goodluck with it, I hope you get further than I did.

 

[Adrian Bravo]

I think it is an idle control valve aswell.

Im not sure it is right but have a look at this PN:46473851 (18 ELECTRO-VALVE)

 

[T14086]

Do not try and move the plunger by hand as you will break it.

The idle valve comes complete with throttle body, last time I checked £350 plus giving them your old one back.

There is no way around this, I took a great deal of time finding this out.

Goodluck with it, I hope you get further than I did.

bu*ger

I think it is an idle control valve aswell.

Im not sure it is right but have a look at this PN:46473851 (18 ELECTRO-VALVE)
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I thought it was that aswell adrian but it doesnt 100% look like the part as there is no diamond shaped bracket with the 2 screws on it...not that eper drawings are that clear anyway.

That part is £130.

 

[dave]

who makes the TB or the bits that go in? can you not email them for the part?

 

[Adrian Bravo]

Is there anything at all printed on the Idle control valve?

 

[T14086]

couldn't see anything, same diagram for the 1.8 punto with same part number you supplied adrian.

 

[dave]

put a wanted ad up for a hgt tb some one may have one, steve1219s may be a right off he is waiting for insurance to decide

 

[s130]

I've just checked and old Fiat Compact Parts CD Ed.22 Date 03-1999

This shows a solenoid throttle body valve with Part No: 60608904 costing £123.89 in 1999

In Jan 2009 this part is listed at £220.32 (including VAT) and show as used in:

Bravo, Brava, Marea, Coupe, Barchetta, Delta and Dedra models.

Bit that really puzzles / concerns me is the MASSIVE price hike, almost doubling in 10 years, plus the fact that the part on the latest ePER is not listed/viewable.

 

[Rustbucket]

The old Fiat song..'That part is on back order Sir'

Barchettaparts or DTR were on here saying they had a load of old B bits. Give them a try?

 

[T14086]

Yes if you look at eper there are quite a few surprises, ask a GP owner how much a 1ft piece of rubber pipe costs (£28!) or why a manual rear window regulator for a GP is twice the price as an electric one Theres making a profit (perfectly acceptable) but theres ripping the f*cking hole!

Anyway, yes its strange while the stepper motor isn't shown on eper, stepper motors for many cars can be brought from germany for £25-30 (no barchetta though:bang so why do you have to buy the whole lot now at a huge price that makes you wonder if its worth keeping the car!

 

[T14086]

Barchettaparts or DTR were on here saying they had a load of old B bits. Give them a try?

who?

EDIT...ahhh good old google

 

[LakMoore]

This looks like the part you want... as someone else said :: Good old Google!

Air Idle Control Valve attached to the Throttle Body

http://www.worldcarparts.co.uk/Store/tabid/667/ProductID/6519/Default.aspx?CategoryID=549

Significantly less cash that the £130 someone suggested!

 

[bollie69]

The mk1 ICV can be found for about 30€ on ebay. I have it and works flawless.
The mk2 ICV is a bit harder to find but you def won't need to change the complete TB. It's just held with 2 screws and is easily taken off.

I would first try to clean it. You can take the plunger out and clean the darn thing. I've done it a couple of times with the mk1 ICV's

You probably got problem with the car stalling when pushing down the clutch, and flutuating rpm when stationary