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500 Start stop battery replacement

I have a 2010 fiat 500 lounge, with the stop start facility.
The battery currently fitted is a Varta Black Dnamic C14 556400 048
12v, 56aH, 480A EN.

According to the varta data, my battery should be a 640 amp, as it has stop / start.

When i look on the Tanya batteries site it gives the battery for my model as the https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/enduroline/002l/
But this battery is only 330 amp, does this battery work with the start / stop ?

My Start / Stop has stopped working, and when the warning ( Stop / Start Not vailable ) comes on, the milage disapears as well.

What amp battery does the start / stop need to enable to function ?

I have just now purchased this battery https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/exide/el600/ in the hope that this one works with the stop / start function.
 
I did considerable research on this in 2017 for my 2013 500C Twinair and was recommended to fit a 560CCA EFB (Enhanced Flooded Battery) type - in its eighth year it's still going strong and the S/S works to specification. Admittedly the S/S is switched off most of the time - I like to know it works but that doesn't mean I want to use it! 🙃
 
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norspeed said:
What amp battery does the start / stop need to enable to function
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For what it's worth, the original OEM battery fitted to my 2010 1.2 500 when it was new was marked 12V 63Ah 450A.

The question is perhaps what type of battery is needed to enable S/S to function for a reasonable period of time.

It should work fine with just about any 12V car battery that is brand new, but it's unlikely to stay that way for long if you buy a cheap one that doesn't meet the spec for S/S.

If it won't work with even a brand new battery, then you have a different problem, most likely with a sensor.

S/S will cause any battery to wear at a greater rate; batteries specifically designed for this application are capable of substantially more charge/discharge cycles to compensate for this.

The first sign that all is not well with the battery is when it automatically restarts a stopped engine before the full three minutes you should be getting.

Piccolo Nero e Bella said:
Admittedly the S/S is switched off most of the time
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If you keep S/S switched off most of the time, whatever battery you fit is likely to last significantly longer before S/S stops working.
 
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jrkitching said:
For what it's worth, the original OEM battery fitted to my 2010 1.2 500 when it was new was marked 12V 63Ah 450A.

The question is perhaps what type of battery is needed to enable S/S to function for a reasonable period of time.

It should work fine with just about any 12V car battery that is brand new, but it's unlikely to stay that way for long if you buy a cheap one that doesn't meet the spec for S/S.

If it won't work with even a brand new battery, then you have a different problem, most likely with a sensor.

S/S will cause any battery to wear at a greater rate; batteries specifically designed for this application are capable of substantially more charge/discharge cycles to compensate for this.

The first sign that all is not well with the battery is when it automatically restarts a stopped engine before the full three minutes you should be getting.



If you keep S/S switched off most of the time, whatever battery you fit is likely to last significantly longer before S/S stops working.
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It has now started working again, possibly due to the warmer wether ( and not using heater blower, or rear window demister ), i have ordererd a new battery anyway ( https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/exide/el600/ )
 
We've got a number of indicators showing here. Amyshepxx states that when checked the battery was only showing 11.7 volts - for sure stop start won't kick in at this level of charge. Also john202020 asks about bluetooth working or not. The relevance of this, I'd guess? is because of the bluetooth module problem which causes a parasitic drain? Lastly, I notice the OP states that the battery was "totally dead" after the car wasn't driven over a weekend. If this is a stop/start battery (probably EFB?) then it's unlikely to recover without being put through a specialist recharging regime. They won't fully recover from a zero, or near zero voltage condition with normal on car or domestic battery charger use. I believe not many places have the required equipment and it costs. The advice I've been given was that in this situation, buying another battery is the easiest course of action.

I'd be checking for a parasitic drain if it were me?
 
steveras57 said:
designed for folk who just love a warning:rolleyes::p light!
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Like I've said; I'd miss it if it wasn't there...! 🙃


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norspeed said:
I have a 2010 fiat 500 lounge, with the stop start facility.
The battery currently fitted is a Varta Black Dnamic C14 556400 048
12v, 56aH, 480A EN.

According to the varta data, my battery should be a 640 amp, as it has stop / start.

When i look on the Tanya batteries site it gives the battery for my model as the https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/enduroline/002l/
But this battery is only 330 amp, does this battery work with the start / stop ?

My Start / Stop has stopped working, and when the warning ( Stop / Start Not vailable ) comes on, the milage disapears as well.

What amp battery does the start / stop need to enable to function ?

I have just now purchased this battery https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/exide/el600/ in the hope that this one works with the stop / start function.
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Usually EFB battery is needed for S&S. After about amps it's tricky because Fiat uses IEC normative and most brands use DIN/EN1/EN2/SAE, so typical Fiat 450A IEC = 435 DIN = 560 EN2 = 640 EN1 = 700 SAE
 
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