New Eper site
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Cinquecento is under the 500 section
FIAT CINQUECENTO (1992-1998)
I can see why that would be confusing though - the old eper didn't have 500 at all!
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Tried to get the elearn in "My Garage" but it says it doesn't recognise my VIN?
Sadly the data only goes up to 2014, sorry
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I believe the outer shell drawings are generic, but if you drill down to the actual part then the real picture is shown.
For example, the headlights...
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Is there a model/year limit in the EPER here?
For example it doesn't recognize some VIN numbers containing letters, like "P" in case of Punto Evo/2012 VINs.
Or in "500" model (TWO letters inside the number). Example VIN: ZFA3120000JC80211
Maybe it's the same idea as in eLearn. Old models are for free. New ones: nope (you need an account and password).
https://aftersales.fiat.com/elearnsections/SelectModel.aspx?languageID=2&markID=1
For example it doesn't recognize some VIN numbers containing letters, like "P" in case of Punto Evo/2012 VINs.
Or in "500" model (TWO letters inside the number). Example VIN: ZFA3120000JC80211
Maybe it's the same idea as in eLearn. Old models are for free. New ones: nope (you need an account and password).
https://aftersales.fiat.com/elearnsections/SelectModel.aspx?languageID=2&markID=1
The forum ePER shares the same database as some other sites on the internet (pekidi, ilcats) and probably has been built with the sama data available at the dealership on the CDs (so contain data from this period only). Then, sometime around 2014 / 2015 FIAT switched to encrypted pendrives. And finally went online.
I'm not sure if aftersales.fiat.com eLearn is the fully official one. Sometimes it gets inaccessible, it seems the authentication token in the link is no longer valid. So it requires a username and password. Sometimes it stays down for a couple of days only, however I remember it took like 2 or 3 months before it got accessible again in the summer 2023. That's why I prefer to post the documents on the forum and not links, because sometimes they just no longer work as I have been stuck myself in 2023 with no available documentation for the things I wanted to do on the van. Then it does not cover all the models. The VIN recognitions does not work at all.
Here on the forum I came accross on two 'new' eLearn links. Both are definitely not official, or using the IT language come from non-production environments (the ones that can be published outside the company IT department). That can be seen in the links: one contains the dev (development environment) suffix, the other one - test. The first one is not accessible as it requires authentication and the user posted it here to ask if someone has a way to get through it. The other one has severe performance issues - too many people try to access it at the same time and it gets down very often. Luckily this one has data until 2018 / 2019. So, with much patience you can get what you want. However it is more tricky to use. Making a pdf file requires downloading the pdf and the images separately, then renaming, converting the vector graphic files and inserting them into the pdf. But it means the graphics are zoomable with no quality loss
I have not found another ePER site with newer data (except 7zap, but they turned off the free service, so you have to pay to get what you want). I know that some forum members are working on the subject. And I hope they will succeed one day to populate the forum ePER with newer models!
I'm not sure if aftersales.fiat.com eLearn is the fully official one. Sometimes it gets inaccessible, it seems the authentication token in the link is no longer valid. So it requires a username and password. Sometimes it stays down for a couple of days only, however I remember it took like 2 or 3 months before it got accessible again in the summer 2023. That's why I prefer to post the documents on the forum and not links, because sometimes they just no longer work as I have been stuck myself in 2023 with no available documentation for the things I wanted to do on the van. Then it does not cover all the models. The VIN recognitions does not work at all.
Here on the forum I came accross on two 'new' eLearn links. Both are definitely not official, or using the IT language come from non-production environments (the ones that can be published outside the company IT department). That can be seen in the links: one contains the dev (development environment) suffix, the other one - test. The first one is not accessible as it requires authentication and the user posted it here to ask if someone has a way to get through it. The other one has severe performance issues - too many people try to access it at the same time and it gets down very often. Luckily this one has data until 2018 / 2019. So, with much patience you can get what you want. However it is more tricky to use. Making a pdf file requires downloading the pdf and the images separately, then renaming, converting the vector graphic files and inserting them into the pdf. But it means the graphics are zoomable with no quality loss
I have not found another ePER site with newer data (except 7zap, but they turned off the free service, so you have to pay to get what you want). I know that some forum members are working on the subject. And I hope they will succeed one day to populate the forum ePER with newer models!
