Technical Max oil level exceeded warning.

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Meechamd

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Hi I have a Ducato based motor home, it is a 2022 2.2 Multijet 140, Collected it from the motorhome dealer and on the way home after 40 miles, max oil level warning came on. It does not have a dip stick so I was unable to check the level, when we got home drained the oil and filled back up with correct amount , maybe 0,5 litre to much oil. The oil warning has not reset, I have taken it for a short drive to warm it up and re-check but message has not reset. Has any one had this problem and know how to reset the message?
 
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Ducato
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2022
Hi I have a Ducato based motor home, it is a 2022 2.2 Multijet 140, Collected it from the motorhome dealer and on the way home after 40 miles, max oil level warning came on. It does not have a dip stick so I was unable to check the level, when we got home drained the oil and filled back up with correct amount , maybe 0,5 litre to much oil. The oil warning has not reset, I have taken it for a short drive to warm it up and re-check but message has not reset. Has any one had this problem and know how to reset the message?
I would expect this is be quite a common fault with pretty much any new vehicle brought today . Now before i start i should explain that my vehicle does not have this stuff , and i won't have that does one given to me , but then i am of an age , where i can get away with saying this . I do however , drive modern trucks every day , and i'm talking about heavy trucks , up to and including 40 tonners . In the early days , when this type of vehicles first appeared , drivers would fill the oil as normal , and this warning would be prolific . This was enough to off road the vehicle , whats know as a VOR (Vehicle Off Road) in the trade . Speaking to a mechanic to try to find an answer as to why , i was told never to fill any more than half way between the lower and higher marks . This did actually cure the problem , and it's a rare occurrence to have this warning today . But personally , i find this answer ridiculous .
Now this was quite a few years ago , but in those days we did still have a dip stick , so it was fairly easy to avoid . Nowadays you literally have to tilt the cab to do a manual check , and so is more important than ever . I can't tell you how to clear the fault on dash , as those affected vehicles would be taken off line , to the workshop . When they came back , they would have what i call a clear panel (no faults) . A local mechanic told me , that modern electronics will actually clear a fault by itself after a set number of cycles , but whether this includes the oil i really can't say . Another note i make , is when you checked the level , i trust you did let the vehicle stand . In my experience only one check is possible a day , and that's when the engine is cold . Once the engine is turned over , oil pressure increases and an oil check often fails . Try checking again in the morning . Failing that my advice would be to return the vehicle to a Fiat main dealer . Sorry i know this will be expensive , but get them to sort it out . I have been told that manufacturers have realised they are missing a trick . Once they sell a vehicle , they don't make anymore money on it , and this is certainly the case with mine . Over the last 3 years , i have spent somewhere between 5 , and 7 grand bringing my vehicle up to scratch , not one penny has gone to a dealer . This is why modern vehicles are difficult to work on , they don't want owners fiddling . Now i don't know if that's true or not , but i have noticed some rather unusual things are breaking . So on that note , maybe you can perhaps begin to understand , why i hold the view i do . They are just more trouble than their worth .
So , just as a foot note , only this last week , i had a warning to check the oil on an 18 tonner . As usual no level showed on the dash check , just check the oil . I've learnt to gingerly put a litre in the sump and recheck . This revealed the level was okay , yet I still had no level check . The result is i still have no idea how much oil is in the sump , just that the level is okay .

Not really an answer , i'm fully aware . But maybe with a little extra knowledge from someone who has been through something very similar , it will give you an idea of how best to advance . I can't really offer any direct advice of how i would progress , as this basically would go against all my knowledge of engines , and with a motor as new as you have , this must be something you , and only you can decide yourself .
 
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Bit late to go back to the dealer. Also what warranty is there?
If the fuel gauge has not reset, the warning won't go away. Refer to the owner's manual to reset.
I'd check the service history as the Ducato first major service including brake fluid is 2 years.
Hope this helps.

Yeah , i'm not as well up on the modern vans as i could be . They are way over complicated , and have far too much to go wrong . Just look at the problems with the robotic gearboxes . Main dealer will sort it , and that is what i suggest he do in this case . But it is gonna cost him , and i did note that .

My mechanic mate told me about the cycle reset when i mentioned something else to do with my smaller Suzuki van . It began to run rough , and the management light came up . I discovered i had set the plug gap too small , it was sorted in a hurry , and i forgot to clear the management light . The light went out on its own after a couple of days , which surprised me .

Yes i would agree with checking the service history , though in many cases it can be difficult to check if the work has actually been done . But i don't think the sales dealer will be much help , as it sounds like they may have caused the initial problem .
When i brought my van , i actually threw the warranty away . Yeah i know , but that was back in 2017 , and it never even sneezed , mind you , i do know my way around that aged diesel . I would never advise anyone to do this , but as my engine is known as bulletproof , and the warranty is now long outta date . There was so much that wasn't covered under the warranty , it was pretty much a waste of paper . I have since rebuilt the cooling system , power steering system , and timing system , to list but three .
All were working fine , they are just brand new now , though i did find multiple issues developing in several systems including the lights , wiring and loom . Some were quite major , others not quite so . They may have lasted for months , or even years , yet none would have been covered by the warranty anyway , as none of it was actually broken . They are all sorted now .
 
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Does the oil gauge now display a sensible numer of bars? Since you will have SGW It is pointless suggesting Multiecuscan but as a result i believe it is now possible to do oil resets by strange combinations of pedel presses and kissing a frog, see u tube for details. Keeping half way as a max is good advice, if the van ever demands more and says its empty only top up with half a ltre 500ml per day.
 
I read the financial pages where it said Stellantis got a new boss who was notorious for cost cutting - to the point of false economies. Eliminating the dipstick sounds like one of them. Apparently incorporating a dipstick was going to be more costly on the later engine because there isn't much room for it?
 
I believe the lack of dipstick was more of a design issue than cost saving. The jeep engine was designed as longitudenal but used transversely in ducato and the dpf clutters the frontal areas normaly associated with dipsticks, though saving design time could have been an issue.
 
Hi thanks for the input, so I noticed the issue 40 miles after driving the motorhome, so as I know it doesn't have to much oil decide to take for a 40 mile trip today if it is the oil level takes a snap shot of the level at this distance, although the message came up with the engine running, which I find unusual as the oil will be circulating around the engine and the sump not at a reliable level. So stopped at 40 miles switched off and back on and message still there, then remembered that I read somewhere needs to be on stop for 6 minutes before checking the level, so when I got home turned it off for 6 minutes and checked but still there. The bars on the level are also still at the maximum, could it be a faulty sensor or does it need to be reset by a Fiat dealer. I bought a sensor but not sure it will resolve the issue so reluctant to change it at the moment.
 
I also own a new Ducato 2.2 engine. I did the maintenance myself and first I had the problem that I couldn't reset the message "oil change required", in the end I managed to reset it with a combination of stepping on the brake pedal several times. The next problem I had was the oil level reading that appeared low when it was impossible because I had just put in the exact amount of oil. I read a lot on the internet and many people said it was due to a problem with the oil level reader that was faulty, they changed said reader and solved it. The problem is that this reader is down in the crankcase so it is necessary to empty the oil again. Finally I found another combination of turning on the ignition, waiting a few seconds and then starting it (I don't remember exactly what it was) but after doing this the oil level gave a correct reading. I hope this information helps you. Greetings
 
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