General Life or Death of my car please help

[Daiton]

Hope you are all well,hear goes !!!
I have a bravo tjet 120 with vl38 turbo + other mods.
I made a school boy error and tried wiring a turbo timer into the wiring harness under the steering column but the wires touched and the car tried starting as if it had been hot wired and made a horrendous sound like holding the key on to long after the car has started.
Now when I start the car normally with the key it does that same noise for a split second after the car has started but this only happens when the engine is warm.if I press the clutch pedal and start up the car up when warm it doesn't make the sound and it doesn't make the sound when the engine is cool.
Iv changed the starter motor thinking the cog is staying out to long.iv changed alternator thinking that had something to do with it both bought from a scrappy.
Iv taken the serpentine belt off and started the car when warm it makes the sound but doesn't sound with clutch pedal pressed.
I have no loss of power and no sound from valves hitting pistons iv done a cam belt and water pump.
I dont know what else to look for,is it an electrical problem or is it mechanical.
Sorry for the rambling on but so confused
Any help would be greatly appreciated many thanks guys

 

[varesecrazy]

Clutch pedal depressed..

Got to be mechanical

 

[PuntoHowTo]

Starter motor sticking !?

Are you sure you completely disconnected everything again after the mistake

 

[Daiton]

Yes.
thanks for the replys,the sound is coming from the timing side.im thinking it's either cam or crank but I dont have any of the symptoms for the crank or cam.no leaks,no knocks,no loss of power.the car drives perfect it's just the starting up

 

[varesecrazy]

Yes.
thanks for the replys,the sound is coming from the timing side.im thinking it's either cam or crank but I dont have any of the symptoms for the crank or cam.no leaks,no knocks,no loss of power.the car drives perfect it's just the starting up

I cannot see how depressing the clutch can effect that..
apart from less load on the starter

Have you tried it with jumpleads from a running car ?

 

[Daiton]

No I haven't but I will try it tomorrow,is it ok if I get in contact with you again to let you know.thanks for the info

 

[varesecrazy]

Post the findings on here..

Then people can find what does..or doesnt help when they have similar problems

 

[Daiton]

Hay I tried your advice.it didn't make the noise as much but you can still hear it

 

[varesecrazy]

Hay I tried your advice.it didn't make the noise as much but you can still hear it

If having a 'boosted' electrical circuit helps

Look at :

1.improving the earth connections

2.getting the battery supply checked

 

[Daiton]

Thanks for your help m8 its appreciated

 

[varesecrazy]

Thanks for your help m8 its appreciated

You are welcome

It sounds as if your starter isnt getting LOTS of power.. so the gear isnt being flung out efficiently

That noise is the gear scrabbling about on the Flywheels RingGear

Rather than being pushed out firmly and Engaging properly

 

[Daiton]

The noise happens after the engine has started plus it doesn't make the sound when the engine is cold

 

[leo]

Did this turn out to be the Dual Mass Flywheel failing?

 

[varesecrazy]

@Daiton

I suspected a poor connector.. had similar before

 

[Daiton]

Hi all problem solved turned out to be loose crank pulley bolt