As any of you who read my posts will know I look after most of the service and maintenance on the six cars which our extended family use daily. One of these is a 2008 Honda Jazz 1.4 iDSI (the one with 8 spark plugs - not only Alfa's are "twin sparks").
Back in the summer I gave it it's yearly service and general going over - It's needed a few "extras" this year Front caliper, rear caliper and pads/discs - Come September the only outstanding jobs I knew about on it were that it was soon going to need an exhaust (which actually failed sooner than I thought it would - See "Farmer Autocare" in the "Garages" threads - and maybe a fan belt.
Well, with the car's owner in the hospital and an MOT due very soon I took the car back to our house after the exhaust was fixed and trundled it into Harrisons for it's MOT. I was feeling very confident it would pass after all that work in the summer and now it's new exhaust and the old girl didn't fail me, sailing through without even an advisory!
I had noticed a slight screech from the fan belt just at start up which is often a sign that the belt is too slack or worn. *Note to self. It's not a fan belt anymore, it's an auxiliary belt now! Anyway, as the car isn't going to be needed for some time I'll just put a new belt on it. Won't take more than a half hour will it? - WRONG!
This is the first generation car - look at how short the bonnet is, should have alerted me! It's really quite scrunched up under there. I know there is no spring tensioner pulley on these so the alternator must pivot to tension the belt. Opened the bonnet and, that's rather nice, immediately could see the clamping bolt and adjusting screw. Nothing as crude as levering against the alternator casing for this Honda! There is some gubbins (air con piping etc) in the way but it's not too bad for access. You can see it behind that air con pipe to the left of the blue screen wash filler cap.


So if I slacken the clamping bolt and then unscrew the tensioning bolt it should take the tension off the belt and I'll be able to remove it? But no. There's a bottom bracket bolt which has to be slackened to allow the alternator to pivot. I couldn't see it from the top so that means taking off the sump tray. Oh well, done that sort of thing often enough, usually quite simple unless there's badly rusted screws. Oh dear, Honda use fancy plastic clip/dowel thingies, lots of them. Now about eleven years old they liked being where they are and decided to self destruct instead of popping out (plastic had degraded and gone brittle. This seems a common problem, lots on line about it). Here's one of the only two to "survive" with a damaged one for comparison.

Ok now the tray is off and the ground covered in lots of bits of broken plastic clips.

Now to get that lower bolt slackened. It's up in here somewhere.

I can see it with my bright Cree LED torch, it's the one with the blue colouring on it,

but reaching it requires my 18 inch long extension and universal adaptor for the 12mm (Honda seem to favour 12mm rather than the more often found 13mm hex fixings.


Used to catch me out when this car first joined "the fleet" but I'm ready for it now. It's actually very annoying because you are expecting many fixings to require a 13mm socket and, if you're not expecting it, a 13mm seems to fit until you apply torque and then you've got a rounded off hex! Both the top locking bolt and this lower bolt were VERY tight. They made that alarming CRACK noise as they broke free just like when a bolt snaps!
The first belt (which I had picked up yesterday from the factor) was too short. It would only stretch round the air con unit's clutch, wouldn't go over into the pulley grooves.

apparently there are 3 possible choices. So I took the old belt with me round to the factor who swapped it for the right one. A wee bonus was that on the way a construction truck had dropped a load of nuts as it exited the building site round the corner from us. I scooped a few up as I was passing. 10mm. Very nice thank you. Wonder what grade they are?

Having got the correct belt it all went back together quite quickly but the Honda agent didn't have the clips (probably just as well. Honda sure know how to charge for parts) So It's all really quite well secured with the two good clips, two self tappers and a couple of cable ties. I'll source the proper clips on eBay and probably wait for a really nice day before fitting them.
In the end I finally got finished around lunchtime, what with the trip to the factor and all. Just as I was tidying up the heavens opened and it absolutely bucketed down - How lucky am I. Put a stop on the leaf clearing I'd planned for the afternoon - pity?
So now I think the wee Jazz (must give it a name) is as ready as it can be to face the rigors of our Scottish winter - our boy lives south of the city up in the hills so gets much more snow than we do down here near the Forth.
Back in the summer I gave it it's yearly service and general going over - It's needed a few "extras" this year Front caliper, rear caliper and pads/discs - Come September the only outstanding jobs I knew about on it were that it was soon going to need an exhaust (which actually failed sooner than I thought it would - See "Farmer Autocare" in the "Garages" threads - and maybe a fan belt.
Well, with the car's owner in the hospital and an MOT due very soon I took the car back to our house after the exhaust was fixed and trundled it into Harrisons for it's MOT. I was feeling very confident it would pass after all that work in the summer and now it's new exhaust and the old girl didn't fail me, sailing through without even an advisory!
I had noticed a slight screech from the fan belt just at start up which is often a sign that the belt is too slack or worn. *Note to self. It's not a fan belt anymore, it's an auxiliary belt now! Anyway, as the car isn't going to be needed for some time I'll just put a new belt on it. Won't take more than a half hour will it? - WRONG!
This is the first generation car - look at how short the bonnet is, should have alerted me! It's really quite scrunched up under there. I know there is no spring tensioner pulley on these so the alternator must pivot to tension the belt. Opened the bonnet and, that's rather nice, immediately could see the clamping bolt and adjusting screw. Nothing as crude as levering against the alternator casing for this Honda! There is some gubbins (air con piping etc) in the way but it's not too bad for access. You can see it behind that air con pipe to the left of the blue screen wash filler cap.


So if I slacken the clamping bolt and then unscrew the tensioning bolt it should take the tension off the belt and I'll be able to remove it? But no. There's a bottom bracket bolt which has to be slackened to allow the alternator to pivot. I couldn't see it from the top so that means taking off the sump tray. Oh well, done that sort of thing often enough, usually quite simple unless there's badly rusted screws. Oh dear, Honda use fancy plastic clip/dowel thingies, lots of them. Now about eleven years old they liked being where they are and decided to self destruct instead of popping out (plastic had degraded and gone brittle. This seems a common problem, lots on line about it). Here's one of the only two to "survive" with a damaged one for comparison.

Ok now the tray is off and the ground covered in lots of bits of broken plastic clips.

Now to get that lower bolt slackened. It's up in here somewhere.

I can see it with my bright Cree LED torch, it's the one with the blue colouring on it,

but reaching it requires my 18 inch long extension and universal adaptor for the 12mm (Honda seem to favour 12mm rather than the more often found 13mm hex fixings.


Used to catch me out when this car first joined "the fleet" but I'm ready for it now. It's actually very annoying because you are expecting many fixings to require a 13mm socket and, if you're not expecting it, a 13mm seems to fit until you apply torque and then you've got a rounded off hex! Both the top locking bolt and this lower bolt were VERY tight. They made that alarming CRACK noise as they broke free just like when a bolt snaps!
The first belt (which I had picked up yesterday from the factor) was too short. It would only stretch round the air con unit's clutch, wouldn't go over into the pulley grooves.

apparently there are 3 possible choices. So I took the old belt with me round to the factor who swapped it for the right one. A wee bonus was that on the way a construction truck had dropped a load of nuts as it exited the building site round the corner from us. I scooped a few up as I was passing. 10mm. Very nice thank you. Wonder what grade they are?

Having got the correct belt it all went back together quite quickly but the Honda agent didn't have the clips (probably just as well. Honda sure know how to charge for parts) So It's all really quite well secured with the two good clips, two self tappers and a couple of cable ties. I'll source the proper clips on eBay and probably wait for a really nice day before fitting them.
In the end I finally got finished around lunchtime, what with the trip to the factor and all. Just as I was tidying up the heavens opened and it absolutely bucketed down - How lucky am I. Put a stop on the leaf clearing I'd planned for the afternoon - pity?
So now I think the wee Jazz (must give it a name) is as ready as it can be to face the rigors of our Scottish winter - our boy lives south of the city up in the hills so gets much more snow than we do down here near the Forth.