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Panda Fiat Panda 169 Mylife 1.2 - My 3rd Fiat

Introduction

My 3rd Fiat, and current daily, a White Fiat Panda 2012 (on a 61 plate) Mylife.

Bought from Ormond Motors Bury, with 61,800 miles, full service history and 1 owner.

She will be getting a good clean and spruce up and an on-going project to keep her going. Not a car I thought I'd own, but there's a cheeky charm to the 169 Panda.

Here's to happy and safe (and cheap🤞) motoring.
A week since I got her and I've had a low but mostly highs. She was faultless the whole 4hr run back up the road, but the next day, she would cut out on idle once warmed up.

She threw an EML and after plugging in my scanner, came up P0335, Crankshaft Position Sensor. Thankfully, Amazon had next day delivery for a Febi Bilstein replacement.

Other than that, she's been flawless and doing her job - being a cheap, fuel sipping runaround. For the whole sum of £35, I was able to go to Stewarton to Wigan and back. I've never had a car so economical.

Looking forward to doing some rust proofing for long term ownership 😊

- I think I'm falling for the Panda charm, look at that face!

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Got the opportunity to have both my Abarth 595 Competitzione and Fiat Panda MyLife together for a quick photo.

Almost 2 weeks I've had the Panda and despite the flak the Panda gets, it's a very comfortable and 'fun' car when driving it on some nice - downhill - B roads.

I'll be posting updates more on the Panda when I'm doing DIY jobs and where I've been in it. I'll try and get more scenic pictures with it!

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I remembered from my 2004 Punto, the throttle body can get a bit gunky due to the breather hose from the rocker cover. Sure enough, it was a bit dirty. I was more shocked at the oil build up at the connection with the air filter box, gave it a right good clean out.

New air filter too.

I love this little car

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Decided to go camping with the Panda this weekend and she's been pretty flawless.

Set off from my work near Helensburgh to Arrochar to fill up! Then to Tyndrum for some camping gas *didn't have any*. Continued to Glencoe then Fort William as I'd be camping at Glen Nevis.

Today (Saturday 7/9/24) I set off for Ardnarmuchan Lighthouse! The roads are an absolute delight and to be quite honest, the Panda was perfect for the drive. After the lighthouse, I took a jaunt to Mallaig, which I'm glad I had AC as it nearly reached 27°C. Double backed on myself and headed into Corpach as there's a bench by the canal I like to sit at. Then continued into Fort Bill where I'm currently having a BBQ Korean bowl from 'Spoons. Thinking back on my mini roadtrip, after seeing a few big SUVs (Touregs, Landys, Range Rovers with the obligatory "tentbox")makes me think are we going the wrong way with cars? Is bigger really better? The amount that had to really ditch themselves on the single-track roads was quite amusing, yet, I could pass by a woman in a Fiat 500 no bother.

I'm currently on 1/8 of fuel left and I'd say that's really good going. I'll fill her up tomorrow morning and 🤞I get home.

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Having done just shy of 5000 miles since I got her, I decided to do a service on the little Panda.

Oil ✅
Oil filter ✅
Oil sump plug ✅
Sparkplugs ✅
Headlight bulbs ✅

I usually use something like Fuchs Titan Race Pro in all my cars, I've decided to go a bit more budget friendly with the Panda (the whole idea of the Panda was a cheap runner) so after some research I opted for Mannol 5W-40 C3 which meets the specifications of Fiat, a fully synthetic oil, £26 for 5L jug of it.

Bulbs I went for Osram night breakers.

The nearside headlight always had a considerable gap between it and the fender, but I've tried my best to rectify it but the lower plastic bracket has snapped. It'll do for now.

She's wanted for nothing and still a joy to drive.

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My factor stocks this long filter and also a shorter one
This is also why you'll see slightly differing figures for the oil capacity posted in various places.

IIRC the longer filter means you need an extra 100ml of oil to get to the same place on the dipstick. (2.7/2.8 litres depending on filter type)

Buying a decent quality filter with a robust anti drainback valve is probably more important than whether you buy the large one or the small one.
 
This is also why you'll see slightly differing figures for the oil capacity posted in various places.

IIRC the longer filter means you need an extra 100ml of oil to get to the same place on the dipstick. (2.7/2.8 litres depending on filter type)

Buying a decent quality filter with a robust anti drainback valve is probably more important than whether you buy the large one or the small one.
Absolutely, and, of course, I had a good look to see they both had anti drain back. I'd only buy a filter with no anti drain back if it was a vertically hanging one. I also always check down the inside to ensure there is an over pressure release at the base. I consider a pressure release valve in an oil filter to be a necessity as, in very cold weather, the filter medium might otherwise restrict oil supply to the engine until the oil had warmed up and thinned down.

I've noticed a tendency for oil filters to generally be smaller now a days. The one on the Ibiza, and now the Scala, are not overly generous. Another reason why regular oil and filter changes are de rigueur these days.
 
On the 1.2 the larger filters are only up to engine 1890665

Both had the same thread so screwed on, but the internal seal diameters were slightly different I believe

There have been a few failures on the Punto's (big instead of small or small stead of big I can't remember)as the internal o ring only seats on about 1/5th of it thickness
 
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On the 1.2 the larger filters are only up to engine 1890665

Both had the same thread so screwed on, but the internal seal diameters were slightly different I believe

There have been a few failures on the Punto's (big instead of small or small stead of big I can't remember)as the internal o ring only seats on about 1/5th of it thickness
It was a few years ago when I did a direct comparison but I could see no difference between the longer and shorter apart from the length of the canister. At that time I had two of the short ones in my spares container (two Pandas and a Punto in the family fleet at that time) and, as the factor had an offer on the filters if you bought two - then you got a third one free - I had just bought three of the longer ones. I compared them very carefully, in particular the rubber seal where it seats on the flange, and I could see no difference between them. The last one, a longer Bosch branded one, is on Becky right now as I did an oil change just a few weeks ago. The two short ones were Mahle and the long ones were Bosch. The only anxiety I felt was that the longer one puts the bottom of the canister quite near the exhaust downpipe and I have sometimes wondered if the oil might be overheated? However I've been using both sizes of filter at random (just taking whatever was available when I needed one) for years and never had a problem. I did cut one open once to see if the oil was burning onto the bottom of the canister but there was no evidence to indicate this and, on reflection, I don't think it's really near enough to matter.
 
Different manufacturers can be slightly different lengths, which fit fine

But fiat fitted two different filters, fitting the wrong one can cause problems


Shop4parts ask for chassis number so you order the right one

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Highly tuned Punto's use to swap the small for the larger, but there were a few caveats
 
When I took the old oil filter off I compared it with the new Magneti Marelli one, a few millimetres longer than the old one but not something I'd say would cause damage. The seals were the same size too.

I've used Magnetti Marelli oil filters in pretty much all my cars, even my Evo 6 and have had no issue with them.

On a side note, yous should see the size of oil filter that went on my old Pajero 2.8TD 🤣 length of my forearm 🤣
 
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