Technical Fiat Ducato Year 2000 2.8 ITD Motorhome - Wiper Motor Replacement

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Technical Fiat Ducato Year 2000 2.8 ITD Motorhome - Wiper Motor Replacement

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Hello from Bridgend, South Wales

I have a Fiat Ducato Year 2000 2.8 ITD Motorhome and unfortunately the windscreen wipers no longer work! With some help from me they will move but not for long before stopping!

I've removed the bonnet, the wiper arms and the plastic cover to reveal the linkage and motor - the linkage looks fine but the motor appears to be badly rusted!

I'd be very grateful if someone could advise how to remove the motor and linkage if necessary.
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I hope I've posted to the correct section!
Thanks
 
Hello,

As far as I remember, in the download section of the forum you'll find workshop manuals for different generations of the Ducatos. Will be a great help.

That white connector on top of the battery, it doesn't look good :p
Thanks for the reply, I'll head over to the download section 👍
That white connector was inherited from the previous owner and was just hanging loose! I just used it to connect to a Victron Bluetooth battery sense 😀 Now the battery terminals are more exposed I'll make off a better connection.
 
The vehicle is an x230 model, and the engine is generally referred to as a 2.8idTD (injection direct Turbo Diesel).

Windscreen wiper arms are usually mounted on a taper. Wiper arm puller kits are available on Ebay, and probably from local accessory shop. I think that the motor has tapered splines. With taper fittings. a light tap on the outside once tension has been applied via the puller sometimes helps, if attempting this support opposite side with second hammer, or similar heavy object.

I am afraid that I looked at the wiring with horror. but then I have been described as fastidious. Is there really a battery hiding in there? If as you suggest the red wire connects to battery positive, I cannot see a fuse. A fuse should be fitted as close as practicable to battery positive.

@bugsymike any thoughts from your wealth of experience?
 
Thanks for the reply, I'll head over to the download section 👍
That white connector was inherited from the previous owner and was just hanging loose! I just used it to connect to a Victron Bluetooth battery sense 😀 Now the battery terminals are more exposed I'll make off a better connection.
In the downloads section, there is a German workshop manual for the x230, and an English translation. I do not wish deprecate the efforts of the member who used an automatic translator, but the manual has sufferd in the translation. In particular the illustrations have been corrupted in the English version. I advise using the English version as a translation aid for the German version, unless you more fluent in German than I am.
 
The vehicle is an x230 model, and the engine is generally referred to as a 2.8idTD (injection direct Turbo Diesel).

Windscreen wiper arms are usually mounted on a taper. Wiper arm puller kits are available on Ebay, and probably from local accessory shop. I think that the motor has tapered splines. With taper fittings. a light tap on the outside once tension has been applied via the puller sometimes helps, if attempting this support opposite side with second hammer, or similar heavy object.

I am afraid that I looked at the wiring with horror. but then I have been described as fastidious. Is there really a battery hiding in there? If as you suggest the red wire connects to battery positive, I cannot see a fuse. A fuse should be fitted as close as practicable to battery positive.

@bugsymike any thoughts from your wealth of experience?
Do my best.;)
You should be able to remove the wiper motor and linkage as one unit if lucky.
The large nuts at the wiper spindle ends need removing , keeping the order of bushes and spacers correct for the return , there will also be some mountings bolting the motor via rubber insulating bushes to the vehicle, then of course the wiring plug, you then push the linkages back through their mounting and hopefully wriggle the whole thing clear to work on.
If you can get the whole unit out, I would then disconnect the motor at the end of it's crank if possible.
Note the reason for that rather than at the motor spindle is when reassembling you may find the wiper arms are cleaning the bonnet etc. as out of sync.;)
Once motor is disconnected you will be able to see if it is the linkage at the spindles that is seizing or the motor it's self, of course it may be both.:)
However with care and lubrication you should be able to free it all off.
Generally speaking I have not found many motors worn out as they are never running long enough at any one time.
However if motor has been left on and spindles seized then it can burn the electrical windings out.
Once all sorted and assembled , check the wiper when turned off at the switch that it correctly moves to it's park position and note where that is.
I see the wiper arms are already off, but when you reassemble do not fit arms until you know for sure where the "park position" is to avoid going off the windscreen area and causing damage.
Also make sure the arms are correctly fitted on to the tapered splines and nut tightened correctly.
A "windscreen Specialist" didn't on one of my daughters cars a VW Golf and on turning the wipers on, the arm promptly broke, luckily I was watching him so he couldn't blame a faulty part, so it cost him around £80!
 
The vehicle is an x230 model, and the engine is generally referred to as a 2.8idTD (injection direct Turbo Diesel).

Windscreen wiper arms are usually mounted on a taper. Wiper arm puller kits are available on Ebay, and probably from local accessory shop. I think that the motor has tapered splines. With taper fittings. a light tap on the outside once tension has been applied via the puller sometimes helps, if attempting this support opposite side with second hammer, or similar heavy object.

I am afraid that I looked at the wiring with horror. but then I have been described as fastidious. Is there really a battery hiding in there? If as you suggest the red wire connects to battery positive, I cannot see a fuse. A fuse should be fitted as close as practicable to battery positive.

@bugsymike any thoughts from your wealth of experience?
Thank you for that info, it really will help me in searching for parts :)

Nothing wrong in being fastidious, having removed the panel to access the wiper linkage it was the best view of the POS+ battery terminal - it is messy probably after several owners adding stuff over the years. I just picked up a feed from the connector block that was already there for supplying the Victron battery sense - there is an inline fuse just a little difficult to see.

I do have a small fuse box I might mount conveniently close for tidiness :)
 
Damn, I didn't make a note of which blade goes on which side :mad:!! My Ducato is RHD and one blade is quite a bit longer than the other :unsure:

Anyone know which side the long blade goes on RHD British Ducato?
 
Damn, I didn't make a note of which blade goes on which side :mad:!! My Ducato is RHD and one blade is quite a bit longer than the other :unsure:

Anyone know which side the long blade goes on RHD British Ducato?
Can't remember, but usually you can judge by the dirt mark sweep on the windscreen assuming you haven't been out washing and polishing recently.;)
Also if you lay the arm and blade inline with the spindles you should be able to see which way they appear to lay best.
 
Can't remember, but usually you can judge by the dirt mark sweep on the windscreen assuming you haven't been out washing and polishing recently.;)
Also if you lay the arm and blade inline with the spindles you should be able to see which way they appear to lay best.
I did a magnificent job of washing and polishing the windscreen BEFORE fitting the wipers :):) Couldn't see any indication BUT, some kind fellow with a similar MoHo said, longer on driver's side = job done but still waiting on replacement motor!
 
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