Technical Ducato 2011 - 2.3. Ascertaining when timing belt was last done

[wanderer 888]

Hi there, I have a 2011 Ducato that has just done 115,000 km's and have no idea if the timing belt has been done. Neither the prervious owner, nor any dated stickers in the engine bay that I can find. Apparently its every five years or 180,000 km's which is a bit ambiguous. Any suggestions?

 

[spidermania]

Don't go by years, strictly mileage base. It's up to you as you still have plenty of mileage left. If you feel like spending money then go for it.

 

[theoneandonly]

every 5 years is the most important figure in cambelt change, few people apart from white van man achieves the milage before 5 years. yours is doing about 10,500km PA so low milage and should have had 2 belts done by now and third due 2026 if done on time. If the previous owner cant tell you when it was done do it now. Only those that never had a belt go suggest waiting. I had a passat booked into having a replacement 1 month and 5000 miles before due , 2 days before appointment belt went.

 

[Anthony489]

Hi

I was told by my local Fiat Professional dealer that 6 years should be OK for a low mileage-per-year vehicle. On the other hand, if the belt failed at just over 5 years I'm not sure they would be the ones picking up the bill for a new engine.

The handbook advice isn't ambiguous, it's 5 years or 180,000 km (112,000 miles) whichever comes first.

 

[tomson]

On the other hand, if the belt failed at just over 5 years I'm not sure they would be the ones picking up the bill for a new engine.

They wouldn't be picking the bill anyway, so in the end it shouldn't really matter.

Just replaced the cambelt and water pump, as it was never changed, 270kkm on the clock and car 10 years old. Was lucky I guess.

Given low mileage I plan doing (~30-50kkm max), I will probably do it within 6-7 years and I will change just belt, tensioners etc. and leave water pump untouched. Everyone needs to assess risk/costs themselves.

 

[Reg 65]

car 10 years old.

But what car was it?
Some vehicles cam belts must be under more tension than others, run round tighter corners so more flexing etc?

 

[tomson]

Just replaced the cambelt and water pump, as it was never changed, 270kkm on the clock and car 10 years old. Was lucky I guess.

But what car was it?

It's X290 Ducato 2.3 from 2014.

EDIT: It doesn't seem I can edit previous post. It's worth adding that the OEM belt after 270kkm was still looking fine with no visible cracks.

 

[Abarthmultijet]

After 270k KM it isn't a bad thing to change the little timing chain in between the cams. Sometimes they fail, and when the do, they go out without a warning.

 

[tomson]

Would it give any rattling noise (e.g. on idle) if it's worn out?

Is there any official service interval or its meant to be lifetime part?

Do you have the OE part number? I guess this whole module would need replacing that is chain, tensioner and sprockets.

 

[Abarthmultijet]

Via parts spupplier (Partspoint) I get these OEM numbers:

504013619 - FIAT
504068388 - FIAT
504013619 - IVECO
504068388 - IVECO

Check of it fits but the Febi 174686 should be the right one.

No, when it is a long timing chain you hear it rattle, but this very small chain you don't hear it rattle