Technical drum brakes
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Technical drum brakes
Not relevant to the 500, but just for completeness, Pandas can also have Bendix-type brakes, which use different Backplate, shoes, cylinders, springs and locating clips.
Don't seem to see many of them, but they do pop up and bite you in the err... well, they do turn up occasionally.
Don't seem to see many of them, but they do pop up and bite you in the err... well, they do turn up occasionally.
Just out of interest: Why would there be a difference between LHD and RHD?
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I don't think there is but some eBay ads advise the parts are LHD only, probably a standard wording on their adverts. Will find out over the weekend and update this thread.
There wouldn't as far as I can see
I can't see any mention on eper
But I have seen an eBay listing for two new ones, at £160 with a red warning say it only fits LHD
The listing may be wrong
Here one from the same company but for a punto
It's only in the description, not in the main advert
I checked the part number in eper there's no mention of LHD
Either eper is wrong or the advert is wrong
My money on the advert
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The only cause of the LHD being different from RHD I can think of are the handbrake cables. However the handbrake lever being in the middle of the car it should not impact the cables. Unless the fuel tank is fitted differently.
I can see how
will post some pics of mine later and the extent of the corrosion.
I can't see why the
Brakes would be lh or rh drive. Thanks for the info mate
will post some pics of mine later and the extent of the corrosion.
I've looked for the part number from the Augustin Group screenshot in ePER and it's not listed for the 500 
But it's the brake kit:
Not the back plate.
But I probably discovered where the LHD / RHD confusion comes from:
They are not symmetrical. So, one goes on the right hand side, the other on the left hand side of the vehicle. But are marked RH / LH on the diagrams. I suppose someone mistook it for RHD / LHD, which is marked GS(X) / GD(X) on the Italian documentation
But it's the brake kit:
Not the back plate.
But I probably discovered where the LHD / RHD confusion comes from:
They are not symmetrical. So, one goes on the right hand side, the other on the left hand side of the vehicle. But are marked RH / LH on the diagrams. I suppose someone mistook it for RHD / LHD, which is marked GS(X) / GD(X) on the Italian documentation
The complete assembly (without drum) for Delphi type brakes seems to have the reference FC180119, and more than one site claims it's compatible with the Panda 169, 500, Ka and Panda 319.
But this info was translated using a combination of me, Google and Ebay.IT auto translation, so could be wrong.
But this info was translated using a combination of me, Google and Ebay.IT auto translation, so could be wrong.
Another interesting finding in eLearn attached:
On 5514 Fiat 500 (all versions) with drum brakes, the chassis numbers of which are comprised in the range from 0J658682 to 0J664976, due to a possible nonconformity, it is necessary to check the printed “DATACODE” showing the manufacturing date on the rear brake backing plates.
On 5514 Fiat 500 (all versions) with drum brakes, the chassis numbers of which are comprised in the range from 0J658682 to 0J664976, due to a possible nonconformity, it is necessary to check the printed “DATACODE” showing the manufacturing date on the rear brake backing plates.
well, after discovering the locking wheel nut key was missing managed to get the nut out an "alternative" way, this is what i have found "Lockheed" i believe. I wont mention the fun i had rebuilding the wheel bearing but needless to say what should have taken 30 mins took 3 hrs ! thanks for all the support to date guys.
Yes Lockheed
Rest looks in good condition
Pull the rubber seals back on the wheel cylinders
If it's not weeping underneath I would be happy to change just the back plate
See it's rotted by the handbrake grommet, is the grommet okay
Yes Lockheed
Rest looks in good condition
Pull the rubber seals back on the wheel cylinders
If it's not weeping underneath I would be happy to change just the back plate
See it's rotted by the handbrake grommet, is the grommet okay
That's a good price even with the postage
Keep hold of the old bits
The adjusters alone are silly money over here
Keep hold of the old bits
The adjusters alone are silly money over here
Will do mate
thanks for input along the way 
love this forum, was great when I did the cam belts on both daughters carsI fitted the new drum assemblies this evening and can confirm there is no difference between lhd and rhd cars. The parts came in 5 days and no export issues. Thanks for guidance and assistance all the back plates seem only available from Fiat at £90 per side, these were about £80 ready assembled with shoes and adjusters etc. I hope this helps someone else on here.
the back plates seem only available from Fiat at £90 per side, these were about £80 ready assembled with shoes and adjusters etc. I hope this helps someone else on here.
