General Diagnostic fee for fault covered by warranty

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General Diagnostic fee for fault covered by warranty

Rondine

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I found some build quality faults on my 23 reg. FIAT Panda 4x4 Wild bought with low mileage early Aug. 23 from A. Clark, FIAT.
It took until the end of Nov. 24 ! to get these rectified under warranty : Gaping wheel arch trims. Film on door pillar poorly fitted
and cracking at edge of door.

In the last couple of months, I have found that water accumulates inside the boot lid when it rains over night.
When lifting the boot lid, I hear the water rushing inside the lid to the top. When booking the car in at A. Clark, FIAT,
for repairs under warranty, I was told that I would have to register a payment of approx. £150 for diagnostics in case
the work was not covered by warranty. I did not agree with this, and I have stalled the repair. I was told that the repair
would surely be covered by warranty, but the £150 was just in case - contradictory. I suggested that rather than take
the car in and starting dismantling, they should put a hoze on the car, and the diagnosis would be water ingress in the tailgate.
How could this be other than warranty work ? Drain holes at base of tailgate appear open.
Taking all fittings of the tailgate : high level brake light, handle etc., may not show up an ill fitting seal, but putting these
correctly back might cure the fault. The AA Technical department was sceptical to the dealer's request for the £150.
FIAT / Stellantis said they were not technically trained butthat the dealer's approach was correct.

When the tyre pressure light went on, I checked an adjusted the tyre pressures but was not able to turn the light off.
Instruction manual is very thin and poor, but have since found a fuller manual exists on line.
I took the car to a different A. Clark, FIAT, dealer from the above one, and asked if they could please turn the light off as
the tyre pressures were correct. They said I would have to book the car in, pay the diagnostic fee, and they would check
the tyre pressures and turn of the light off ! The light was eventually turned off when the car was in for a service.

This same dealer as aboved had asked me to pay the fee for adjusting the handbreak which was very slack and could not hold the car,
just after the car was delivered. I took the car to another A. Clark, FIAT dealer who adjusted this.

I recall previous FIAT warranties some years back when I looked forward to be out of the warranties. FIAT relied on the
knowledge of the dealerships. In one case, years ago, I managed to use the rare visit by a FIAT technician, who agreed with me
that diesel injectors in a FIAT Tipo were faulty giving only intermittent high revs when idling. The dealer found no faults.
There were no talk of diagnostic fees.

I wish there were more FIAT dealerships in Scotland.
 
I think this charge is outrageous. I have NEVER been asked to pay such on any new car and there have been many. Ask to speak to the dealer prinicpal and point out its under warranty and they need to sort it out! Try not shout at them even though its deserved!
 
I think this charge is outrageous. I have NEVER been asked to pay such on any new car and there have been many. Ask to speak to the dealer prinicpal and point out its under warranty and they need to sort it out! Try not shout at them even though its deserved!

It's happening with boiler warranties too now, some manufacturers allow one visit and if there's another call out needed then they charge your credit card or debit card and if the issue isn't a boiler fault then you're charged for the engineer visit.

If you have an older boiler out of warranty and it breaks down then the boiler manufacturers have a fixed price repair service which is around the £350 mark and again they'll only send an engineer out if you pay up front and if the engineer deems the boiler BER then you're charged for his visit with Vokera, for example that used to be or is £140 but I'm sure Worcester Bosch charge the full FPR charge of £340 with no refund if the engineer condemns the boiler as BER however they have a scheme where you pay £50 a month for six months (might be more now) and that covers most repairs plus an ongoing warranty but that's a D&G product not a WB product but only WB engineers attend.
 
It's happening with boiler warranties too now, some manufacturers allow one visit and if there's another call out needed then they charge your credit card or debit card and if the issue isn't a boiler fault then you're charged for the engineer visit.

If you have an older boiler out of warranty and it breaks down then the boiler manufacturers have a fixed price repair service which is around the £350 mark and again they'll only send an engineer out if you pay up front and if the engineer deems the boiler BER then you're charged for his visit with Vokera, for example that used to be or is £140 but I'm sure Worcester Bosch charge the full FPR charge of £340 with no refund if the engineer condemns the boiler as BER however they have a scheme where you pay £50 a month for six months (might be more now) and that covers most repairs plus an ongoing warranty but that's a D&G product not a WB product but only WB engineers attend.
Good reason to do these things yourself. £500 of test kit goes quite a long way. All I cna say to these sorts of charges is what a KINRIPOFF. I have a small degree of sympathy with companies for the stupid call outs they no doubt get, but why they are no longer capable fo fixing a suitable hourly rate to cover their costs is beyond me. If they are that useless they deserve to go bust.

My central heating boiler is c 15 years old now, I still think of it as new. Its had two faults in its time and I have correctly diagnosed them before the engineer arrived. Had I followed my nose I would have fixed the thing both times, but teh engineer I use gets the parts at a great price so I would have saved nothing by DIY. It reminds me I need to give him a call for service. Thanks.
 
Good reason to do these things yourself. £500 of test kit goes quite a long way. All I cna say to these sorts of charges is what a KINRIPOFF. I have a small degree of sympathy with companies for the stupid call outs they no doubt get, but why they are no longer capable fo fixing a suitable hourly rate to cover their costs is beyond me. If they are that useless they deserve to go bust.

My central heating boiler is c 15 years old now, I still think of it as new. Its had two faults in its time and I have correctly diagnosed them before the engineer arrived. Had I followed my nose I would have fixed the thing both times, but teh engineer I use gets the parts at a great price so I would have saved nothing by DIY. It reminds me I need to give him a call for service. Thanks.

Most people can't fix boilers or cars themselves and to be frank the public are stupid and really deserve all they get.

Fifteen year old boilers are at the end of their life sorry but that's just the reality, unless you're on a long warranty or a service contract with the likes of BG then when it starts giving you grief it's time to bite the bullet and replace it.

Boilers are like cars new boilers these days are unrecognisable to boilers manufactured 15 years ago.

I've just replaced my old Citroen Nemo van (2014) with a new Nissan Townstar petrol van and honestly it's like a whole new world in comparison, auto hand brake, car play, lane assist, cruise control etc etc to be honest I'm struggling a bit with the change and that's the same with boilers these days along with smart controls.
 
They said I would have to book the car in, pay the diagnostic fee, and they would check
the tyre pressures and turn of the light off !

Buy yourself a MultiEcuScan license + an interface. You will pay more or less what you'd pay for such a single action from the dealer side and have it forever ;)

I don't have much sympathy for the dealers, but remember, they are independent, private companies. So they just want to secure themselves that someone will pay for their job in case FIAT refuses afterwards. I don't discuss the rates, as they are simply extremely high...

Perhaps after Stellantis took over some rules changed and they are less willing to pay back the dealership?
 
Note the original post was dated February- probably sorted by now. The problem of following the ‘similar threads’ posts at the bottom of these pages: they might be similar, but can be months, or even years, old:)
Yes, I know the post is 6 or 7 weeks old. The problem of the error on the dash has been sorted, I know - the OP confirmed it in his post.

However the 'problem' of the post is just general complaining on how the dealership work - so it's timeless. And the same principles will always apply ;)
 
Yes, I know the post is 6 or 7 weeks old. The problem of the error on the dash has been sorted, I know - the OP confirmed it in his post.

However the 'problem' of the post is just general complaining on how the dealership work - so it's timeless. And the same principles will always apply ;)
True… that why I never use them :)
 
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