Technical 22 Ducato Burstner OBD port location?

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Technical 22 Ducato Burstner OBD port location?

chris116

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Hi, any advice on the location of the OBD port on my 22 plate Burstner 745 Ducato base please?
Many thanks
 
Year
2022
Bellow cubby are 2 screws undo and remove fusebox cover. the obd2 port is behind a rubber cap with a yellow centre
cubby2.jpg
 
Hi, any advice on the location of the OBD port on my 22 plate Burstner 745 Ducato base please?
Many thanks
Most of the 2022 and later Ducato models have a Secure Gateway Module fitted to the OBD port which only allows access by authorised Fiat dealers. If that's the case you will need an SGW Bypass to gain access.
 
Most of the 2022 and later Ducato models have a Secure Gateway Module fitted to the OBD port which only allows access by authorised Fiat dealers. If that's the case you will need an SGW Bypass to gain access.
Oh dear, motorhome is in storage so I can’t check. Any ideas where I can get a SGW and are run of the mill OBD readers compatible?
 
Oh dear, motorhome is in storage so I can’t check. Any ideas where I can get a SGW and are run of the mill OBD readers compatible?
If it has an SGW then you can get an SGW Bypass such as this from eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134150475620 for which you disconnect the existing SGW located behind the glove box and connect this in its place. I found that some of the cheaper OBD readers weren't very reliable and finally settled on an OBDLinkEX which worked perfectly with both MultiEcuScan and AlfaOBD. Although neither of these are fully up to date and therefore unable to access all of the modules in the 2022 Ducato.

Was there a specific reason that you needed access to the system?
 
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re-reading this
i note the bcm sgw was introduced in 71 reg year so it will be interesting if you have the by-passable version
 
re-reading this
i note the bcm sgw was introduced in 71 reg year so it will be interesting if you have the by-passable version
I have doubts about the validity of the chart referencing the BCM SGW which was compiled from owners reports which may or may not be accurate. I have a 72 plate Ducato and this still has the separate SGW.
 
If it has an SGW then you can get an SGW Bypass such as this from eBay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/134150475620 for which you disconnect the existing SGW located behind the glove box and connect this in its place. I found that some of the cheaper OBD readers weren't very reliable and finally settled on an OBDLinkEX which worked perfectly with both MultiEcuScan and AlfaOBD. Although neither of these are fully up to date and therefore unable to access all of the modules in the 2022 Ducato.

Was there a specific reason that you needed access to the system?
I have an ongoing issue with the Uconnect 10 headset, no DAB at all it just doesn’t recognise the DAB function, Speaker icon with “audio system unavailable” warning light on the dash and an intermittent fault with the reverse cam. This either works perfectly or just gives a blue screen when selecting reverse very intermittent either works or doesn’t. I was wondering if the OBD system would throw up any clues before taking it to the dealership. Fiat service HQ have sort of offered a goodwill gesture towards repair if the fault lays with Fiat as the warranty is out but I have to pay upfront first then wait for a decision on or if any warranty refund. Dealer insists on an OBD check first @£120 then progress from there so I expect it will be an expensive outlay initially with no real guarantee of a refund.
 
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I have an ongoing issue with the Uconnect 10 headset, no DAB at all it just doesn’t recognise the DAB function, Speaker icon with “audio system unavailable” warning light on the dash and an intermittent fault with the reverse cam. This either works perfectly or just gives a blue screen when selecting reverse very intermittent either works or doesn’t. I was wondering if the OBD system would throw up any clues before taking it to the dealership. Fiat service HQ have sort of offered a goodwill gesture towards repair if the fault lays with Fiat as the warranty is out but I have to pay upfront first then wait for a decision on or if any warranty refund. Dealer insists on an OBD check first @£120 then progress from there so I expect it will be an expensive outlay initially with no real guarantee of a refund.
The problem you'll find with accessing it yourself with MultiEcuScan or AlfaOBD is that neither are fully up to date with the 2022 Ducato modules. The following scan using MultiEcuScan from my 2022 model shows that none of the entertainment modules are supported. So by the time you've purchased an SGW Bypass, the required coloured adapters, an OBD Reader and a licence for MultiEcuScan or AlfaOBD you'll have paid out at least £120 with no guarantee of success. You might have more success by posting the actual fault on here in a separate thread.
 

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The problem you'll find with accessing it yourself with MultiEcuScan or AlfaOBD is that neither are fully up to date with the 2022 Ducato modules. The following scan using MultiEcuScan from my 2022 model shows that none of the entertainment modules are supported. So by the time you've purchased an SGW Bypass, the required coloured adapters, an OBD Reader and a licence for MultiEcuScan or AlfaOBD you'll have paid out at least £120 with no guarantee of success. You might have more success by posting the actual fault on here in a separate thread.
Many thanks again for the reply and very helpful advice I’ll retry re-posting the fault as advised.
I’ll post an update if I get a diagnosis
 
I have doubts about the validity of the chart referencing the BCM SGW which was compiled from owners reports which may or may not be accurate. I have a 72 plate Ducato and this still has the separate SGW.
I also have extreme doubts about the validity of the chart because i compiled it, but it is the only indication i have seen of when the sgw may be encountered. Its as acurate as the details provided.(in my view each date could be upto 2 years out) when was yours registered and any idea when it left factory or went/left convertors. (try c of c).
As to what Multiecuscan covers latest ver 5.3 cover the Multijet iii 2.2 from mutlecuscan.net WHERE 2.2 Multijet iii FIT I TERMS of YEARS NOT A CLUE, woops . the twin egr model at 3 years seems to be a one of the longest longevities of recent years.

Supported modules​


Engine management​

Urea/AdBlue dosing module Continental (2 injectors)

Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 46 live data parameters, Execute up to 3 actuators/tests, Execute up to 8 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Transmission​

ZF 9HP48 Automatic Gearbox
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 29 live data parameters, Execute up to 3 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Brake management​

Bosch ABS 9 ESP
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 33 live data parameters, Execute up to 18 actuators/tests, Execute up to 8 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD+GRAY adapter A6
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Service interval​

Service Interval Reset (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read up to 8 live data parameters, Execute up to 5 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Cluster/dashboard/multimedia​

Instrument Panel Marelli (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 11 live data parameters, Execute up to 17 actuators/tests, Execute up to 5 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Body/central management​

Body Computer Aptiv (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 57 live data parameters, Execute up to 22 actuators/tests, Execute up to 3 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read up to 84 live data parameters, Execute up to 43 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Miscellaneous systems​

Parking control Bosch
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 5 live data parameters, Execute up to 1 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD+GRAY adapter A6
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Parking control SPM Bosch
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 8 live data parameters, Execute up to 1 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD+GRAY adapter A6
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Tire Pressure Control (TPMS) Schrader (2/3 axle)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 34 live data parameters, Execute up to 1 actuators/tests, Execute up to 13 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR
 
I also have extreme doubts about the validity of the chart because i compiled it, but it is the only indication i have seen of when the sgw may be encountered. Its as acurate as the details provided.(in my view each date could be upto 2 years out) when was yours registered and any idea when it left factory or went/left convertors. (try c of c).
I'm not sure when mine left the factory, it was purchased originally as a van straight from a Fiat Dealer in late October 2022 and converted later. If you could please explain (try c of c) I'll give it a try.

I've often wondered how users have determined that the SGW is in the BCM since the only way seems to be to physically search for it and it's difficult to find being bolted to the rear of the LH glovebox on a RHD vehicle which means you have to completely remove the glovebox to locate it. MultiEcuScan merely reports that the SGW module is present but not it's location.

Is there any hard evidence that later models have the SGW in the BCM?
 
I'm not sure when mine left the factory, it was purchased originally as a van straight from a Fiat Dealer in late October 2022 and converted later. If you could please explain (try c of c) I'll give it a try.

I've often wondered how users have determined that the SGW is in the BCM since the only way seems to be to physically search for it and it's difficult to find being bolted to the rear of the LH glovebox on a RHD vehicle which means you have to completely remove the glovebox to locate it. MultiEcuScan merely reports that the SGW module is present but not it's location.

Is there any hard evidence that later models have the SGW in the BCM?
c of c certificate of conformance. A form from the manufacturer stating what it its tests applicable etc and normally signed by a QA signatory.
Hard evidence of sgw , typicaly part number changes. eg march 2019 new glovebox part numer to fit sgw applied in France ,noit applied to uk untill sept 19 with 2.3 adblu
 
c of c certificate of conformance. A form from the manufacturer stating what it its tests applicable etc and normally signed by a QA signatory.
Hard evidence of sgw , typicaly part number changes. eg march 2019 new glovebox part numer to fit sgw applied in France ,noit applied to uk untill sept 19 with 2.3 adblu
I don't have a certificate of conformance so I'm afraid it looks like not being able to determine the build date.

That's hard evidence for the dates the standalone SGW was installed but is there any hard evidence that the standalone SGW was removed and the SGW module incorporated into the BCM?
 
I also have extreme doubts about the validity of the chart because i compiled it, but it is the only indication i have seen of when the sgw may be encountered. Its as acurate as the details provided.(in my view each date could be upto 2 years out) when was yours registered and any idea when it left factory or went/left convertors. (try c of c).
As to what Multiecuscan covers latest ver 5.3 cover the Multijet iii 2.2 from mutlecuscan.net WHERE 2.2 Multijet iii FIT I TERMS of YEARS NOT A CLUE, woops . the twin egr model at 3 years seems to be a one of the longest longevities of recent years.

Supported modules​


Engine management​

Urea/AdBlue dosing module Continental (2 injectors)

Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 46 live data parameters, Execute up to 3 actuators/tests, Execute up to 8 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Transmission​

ZF 9HP48 Automatic Gearbox
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 29 live data parameters, Execute up to 3 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Brake management​

Bosch ABS 9 ESP
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 33 live data parameters, Execute up to 18 actuators/tests, Execute up to 8 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD+GRAY adapter A6
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Service interval​

Service Interval Reset (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read up to 8 live data parameters, Execute up to 5 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Cluster/dashboard/multimedia​

Instrument Panel Marelli (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 11 live data parameters, Execute up to 17 actuators/tests, Execute up to 5 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Body/central management​

Body Computer Aptiv (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 57 live data parameters, Execute up to 22 actuators/tests, Execute up to 3 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

CAN Setup / PROXI Alignment Procedure (290MCA)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read up to 84 live data parameters, Execute up to 43 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Miscellaneous systems​

Parking control Bosch
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 5 live data parameters, Execute up to 1 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD+GRAY adapter A6
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Parking control SPM Bosch
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 8 live data parameters, Execute up to 1 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD+GRAY adapter A6
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS+GRAY adapter A6
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR

Tire Pressure Control (TPMS) Schrader (2/3 axle)
Supported functionality:
Read identification details, Read/clear error codes, Read error code details, Read up to 34 live data parameters, Execute up to 1 actuators/tests, Execute up to 13 special functions and procedures
Possible to connect with following interfaces/adapters:
ELM 327/OBD Direct-Protect/Generic OBD
OBDLink SX/MX/MX+/LX
Vgate vLinker MC/MC+/BM/BM+/FD/FD+/FS
Vgate vLinker MS
CANtieCAR
Much appreciated for your long and informative reply 👍
 
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